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To me, this really comes down to the issue I have with believers. It seems to be, that the only thing they truly care about is their own salvation bringing them some kind of peace of mind regarding their future comfort.
It's so selfish. How does selfishness, resulting from the idea of their own assurance, make someone better than an unbeliever? Because it seems like it is all about preparing for their future comfort.
Paul said that he would give up his salvation to save a few of his own lost people. He said it in Romans 9 I believe. Would any evangelical Christian really do the same? Salvation can't possibly be what they think it is.
To me, this really comes down to the issue I have with believers. It seems to be, that the only thing they truly care about is their own salvation bringing them some kind of peace of mind regarding their future comfort.
It's so selfish. How does selfishness, resulting from the idea of their own assurance, make someone better than an unbeliever? Because it seems like it is all about preparing for their future comfort.
Paul said that he would give up his salvation to save a few of his own lost people. He said it in Romans 9 I believe. Would any evangelical Christian really do the same? Salvation can't possibly be what they think it is.
You think it's selfish that we would submit our lives and all we are to the Creator of the universe?
Why is it such a big deal to you that some believe? Here it is, 8:30 on a Sunday morning and you're posting on religious message boards to tell people you don't believe.
You think it's selfish that we would submit our lives and all we are to the Creator of the universe?
Why is it such a big deal to you that some believe? Here it is, 8:30 on a Sunday morning and you're posting on religious message boards to tell people you don't believe.
Wow. Good on ya.
I'm following the spirit of God as he instructs me in following Christ. You don't have to believe and can continue to mock what I do.
I'm following the spirit of God as he instructs me in following Christ. You don't have to believe and can continue to mock what I do.
Ozzy, explain how it is selish to be secure in what you believe and how you can have others feel that same secureness if you dont possess it yourself ?.
You think it's selfish that we would submit our lives and all we are to the Creator of the universe?
Why is it such a big deal to you that some believe? Here it is, 8:30 on a Sunday morning and you're posting on religious message boards to tell people you don't believe.
Wow. Good on ya.
Actually I believe it is selfish for a god to require creation to do so or face eternal suffering
To me, this really comes down to the issue I have with believers. It seems to be, that the only thing they truly care about is their own salvation bringing them some kind of peace of mind regarding their future comfort.
It's so selfish. How does selfishness, resulting from the idea of their own assurance, make someone better than an unbeliever? Because it seems like it is all about preparing for their future comfort.
Paul said that he would give up his salvation to save a few of his own lost people. He said it in Romans 9 I believe. Would any evangelical Christian really do the same? Salvation can't possibly be what they think it is.
There is some truth to what you're saying. The rapture doctrine most base their assurance on, is a doctrine with fear and selfishness as it's roots. Few seem to be concerned with the ones they feel will be "left behind", only that they themselves make it out of here before X,Y,Z happens. They have never considered that He said it would be as it was in the time of Noah, and in Noah's time only the wicked left the earth. Peace
To me, this really comes down to the issue I have with believers. It seems to be, that the only thing they truly care about is their own salvation bringing them some kind of peace of mind regarding their future comfort.
You have only confirmed you don't understand Christianity. Evangelism is about the salvation of the lost, not about our own salvation. It is an act of love for others---love your neighbor as yourself
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It's so selfish. How does selfishness, resulting from the idea of their own assurance, make someone better than an unbeliever? Because it seems like it is all about preparing for their future comfort.
On thing Christians understand is that we are still sinners and no better than anyone else.
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Paul said that he would give up his salvation to save a few of his own lost people. He said it in Romans 9 I believe. Would any evangelical Christian really do the same? Salvation can't possibly be what they think it is.
Yes. We call them martyrs.
I would gladly give up my salvation to save my Children, grand children, great grand children.
Actually I believe it is selfish for a god to require creation to do so or face eternal suffering
I'm not sure what you believe is really relevant to what the Sovereign God of the Universe thinks. Truth is not relative to personal feelings or dependent on how many people believe it. God has stated that we are guilty and deserve punishment unless we have Christ to mediate for us.
If we were selfish, we wouldn't share the gospel like we do.
Yet, those who do not believe as you - are condemned to an eternal hell.
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Yet, those who do not believe as you - are condemned to an eternal hell.
