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Agreed, exactly.
I sound like a broken record sometimes...but 'direct experience' over some idea,
opinion, concept or belief, ritual, ceremony, dogma, social obligation, or some
one else's interpretation any day.
Yes, direct experience is what is very personal for even myself.
And when the scripture confirms that experience, i could not contain such an experience to just mine alone.
To find the others who have had such an experience is very comforting.
I just didnt have the words used today. Only Light and sound. Far to strong to make out anything more than what ive already shared in testimony here about the visions.
Just remember that salvation is near you, very close.
and but it is just as dangerous to run religiously after
"spirituality " .. all while they religiously burning "the contract of salvation " in Bible and religiously condemning ", religious speech" aka "fundamentalism" and all biblical truth ... because it is used by the "Religious" and ... drum roll ....." NOT the LOVING "...
and but it is just as dangerous to run religiously after
"spirituality " .. all while they religiously burning "the contract of salvation " in Bible and religiously condemning ", religious speech" aka "fundamentalism" and all biblical truth ... because it is used by the "Religious" and ... drum roll ....." NOT the LOVING "...
Hi George. I agree that God is always seeking and calling for us and that He wants us to draw near to Him and to love Him and to love our neighbor, and that He wants us to share the gospel or good news with others. I agree also that Christianity is a way of life. It's actually a supernatural way of life which cannot be executed in the energy of the flesh, but requires the supernatural enablement of God the Holy Spirit in order to live it. I further agree that the Christian life is not about observing the festivals and Sabbaths of Judaism. The Christian life actually has a moment by moment sabbath or rest into which the believer can enter at any time simply by believing the promises of God. We rest in Christ Jesus.
Having said that, I believe that a person becomes a Christian, becomes 'born again' or regenerated at the moment he accepts as true the proposition that Jesus died for our sins and that He rose again and therefore puts his faith in Christ Jesus for eternal life.
I believe that after having been saved by grace through faith alone in Christ alone, a person has to decide if he is going to advance spiritually in the Christian life or remain a spiritual infant. I see salvation as three pha
Sadly, most believers, although eternally saved, never make the effort to grow spiritually and therefore remain spiritual infants and even spend a great deal of time out of fellowship in a state of carnality.
Mike, think we are essentially in agreement on many things and what differences that may lurk in the theological details are not important in the context of this thread. may God bless and keep you, and me, and all who seek to find and live the "truth (that) will set you free" to know and do the will of God (from a Christian's point of view perhaps the ultimate "experience" and "enlightenment" and the goal and purpose of the Christian religion) so that we can live ever more fully through faith, hope, and love "in" Christ and He live more fully "in" us---now and forever, amen.
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Mike, think we are essentially in agreement on many things and what differences that may lurk in the theological details are not important in the context of this thread. may God bless and keep you, and me, and all who seek find that "truth (that) will set you free" to know and do the will of God (from a Christian's point of view perhaps the ultimate "enlightenment" and the goal and purpose of the Christian religion) so that we can live ever more fully through faith, hope, and love "in" Christ and He live more fully "in" us---now and forever, amen.
or as St. Paul says, "our BLESSED hope" (Titus 2:13).
IMHO, "religion" (however we define or experience it: organized or otherwise, corporately or individually, traditional or not) is simply the means, the vehicle by which one can find and hopefully embrace and be embraced by the ultimate transcedent Divine SOURCE of all that is good and loving in ourselves and all creation for all time
once fully embraced by and fully embracing He in "whom we live, and move, and have our being" (Acts 17:28) we can truly find and experience (and perhaps just as importantly SHARE) "the peace that transcends understanding" (Phil. 4:7) and then we are truly "saved".
religion can be and is much more than just "massive shrines and hypnotic ritual, (or)... (seemingly) fearful dogmas and (apparently) proud election but ultimately in the "childlike and trustful communion of the (all too often) baffled but trusting soul with a (loving) and forgiving God".
in the peace of Christ.
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or as St. Paul says, "our BLESSED hope" (Titus 2:13).
IMHO, "religion" (however we define or experience it: organized or otherwise, corporately or individually, traditional or not) is simply the means, the vehicle by which one can find and hopefully embrace and be embraced by the ultimate Divine Source of all that is good and loving in ourselves and all creation for all time.
religion can be and is much more than just "massive shrines and hypnotic ritual, (or)... (seemingly) fearful dogmas and (apparently) proud election but ultimately in the "childlike and trustful communion of the (all too often) baffled but trusting soul with a (loving) and forgiving God".
or as St. Paul says, "our BLESSED hope" (Titus 2:13).
IMHO, "religion" (however we define or experience it: organized or otherwise, corporately or individually, traditional or not) is simply the means, the vehicle by which one can find and hopefully embrace and be embraced by the ultimate transcedent Divine SOURCE of all that is good and loving in ourselves and all creation for all time
once fully embraced by and fully embracing He in "whom we live, and move, and have our being" (Acts 17:28) we can truly find and experience (and perhaps just as importantly SHARE) "the peace that transcends understanding" (Phil. 4:7) and then we are truly "saved".
religion can be and is much more than just "massive shrines and hypnotic ritual, (or)... (seemingly) fearful dogmas and (apparently) proud election but ultimately in the "childlike and trustful communion of the (all too often) baffled but trusting soul with a (loving) and forgiving God".
Or as St. Paul says, "our BLESSED hope" (Titus 2:13).
IMHO, "religion" (however we define or experience it: organized or otherwise, corporately or individually,traditional or not) is simply the means, the vehicle by which one can find and hopefully embrace and be embraced by the ultimate transcendent Divine SOURCE of all that is good and loving in ourselves and all creation for all time
Once fully embraced by and fully embracing He in "whom we live, and move, and have our being" (Acts 17:28) we can truly find and experience (and perhaps just as importantly SHARE) "the peace that transcends understanding" (Phil. 4:7) and then we are truly "saved".
Religion can be and is much more than just "massive shrines and hypnotic ritual, (or)... (seemingly) fearful dogmas and (apparently) proud election but ultimately in the "childlike and trustful communion of the (all too often) baffled but trusting soul with a (loving) and forgiving God".
in the peace of Christ.
Very nice post...Mike's, also. 10/1
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