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I just have not come across a Bible hater, as mentioned here today, and I have been called one
by that same poster....now, some are indifferent, sure...
some here believe it was tampered with, some believe it is a metaphor,
some think it is a fantasy of made up stories blaming God for really bad things,
and many more opinions of the Bible....but, 'haters'?
Anyone care to stand up and say they are or are not?
I'm not. It is a label I don't think accounts for many here.
I just have not come across a Bible hater, as mentioned here today, and I have been called one
by that same poster....now, some are indifferent, sure...
some here believe it was tampered with, some believe it is a metaphor,
some think it is a fantasy of made up stories blaming God for really bad things,
and many more opinions of the Bible....but, 'haters'?
Anyone care to stand up and say they are or are not?
I'm not. It is a label I don't think accounts for many here.
No, and it's been a bit frustrating when I've attempted to have intelligent conversations on the subject with those who want to hold onto the concept of an inerrant, God-breathed tome. The perception automatically swings the other way to "So you just toss scripture out totally and make things up yourself." I have trouble believing anyone could be that ignorant about non-fundamentalist Christian traditions and perspectives, so I tend to conclude that such people just want to argue for argument's sake and set up an "Us vs. Them" situation.
I have no one-size-fits-all opinion of the Bible. It's a collection of many different writings by many different people at different periods in history in a culture different from the one we live in now. Some of it rings true to me, usually because there are certain constants in all humans and their quests for spiritual knowledge everywhere and in every time. There are other writings that do the same thing. This is not me "cherry-picking" or choosing the parts I like that make me comfortable, and when people accuse me of that, I tend to think they are a bit simple-minded if they cannot grasp what I am saying--or that they are pretending not to grasp what I am saying.
The Bible is the work of humans trying to express a connection with the divine, but it is not divine, and it is not magical.
I just have not come across a Bible hater, as mentioned here today, and I have been called one
by that same poster....now, some are indifferent, sure...
some here believe it was tampered with, some believe it is a metaphor,
some think it is a fantasy of made up stories blaming God for really bad things,
and many more opinions of the Bible....but, 'haters'?
Anyone care to stand up and say they are or are not?
I'm not. It is a label I don't think accounts for many here.
I think it's clear from the responses we get on this forum that there are those that do.
well they either hate the bible and it writers or people who read it ... take your choice.. it is crystal clear they sure hate someone.
Well, yes. What I hate is the calamitous doctrine that makes the Bible the ultimate, not to be challenged authority for the Christian faith.
The problem is that many of the people who hold this seriously defective doctrine can't wrap their mind around the idea that the Bible is a useful TOOL in the toolbox of the Spirit, but NOT an authority in its pown right. They see any challenge to the idea of the ultimate authority of the Bible as a denial of the value of that book altogether. It keeps them from having to face the shortcomings ad well as the valued contained in it.
It's ridiculous to hate a book. People who hate books burn them. We know of at least one on this forum who has done so and is proud of it.
I think the bible is a compendium of stories, allegories, myth, history and nonsense written by primitive people trying to understand their world. Some of it is brilliant. Some of it abhorrent and barbarous. Thankfully, most people know which is which.
What I have come to hate, is the mindset of fundamentalists who think its an inerrant book of historical fact. They want to use their book to control others and that is hateful.
when someone says "bible hater" if you got offended ( that is what you claimed just now ) then it is your conscience telling you it's truth.. someone could tell me that all day long and it would never offend me.. I because I know I love his word and His spirit and him and then my neighbors ...
maybe the point is if it gets your goat then you got a goat to get.. so get it right with him. when the car lights comes on you shouldn't poke out the lights.. they are there to warn you something is wrong. ands guilty feelings are the dash lights..
if you choose your feelings over his word... you don't love Him more than you love you and you might not trust him more than you trust you....... that is the first comandment even in the testament is Love Him First and HE IS THE WORD Old and new testament WORD>>> .. .
if you got offended it is because you got a goat to get.
because I won't get offended by those words from anyone ...unless HE tells me that then I might feel offended because it will be true....
From the clearly contradictory elements contained within it which you so vehemently deny in order to save your disastrous doctrine.
There are no "clearly contradictory elements contained within it".
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