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Old 12-04-2017, 07:44 AM
 
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The Bible says that about all of mankind. It's because of the sin nature we are all born with, inherited from Adam.
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The bible is wrong.
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I think everyone is well aware of your opinion on that.
Perhaps it is just a matter of MORTALS got it wrong when they wrote the book..
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Old 12-05-2017, 12:05 AM
 
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But we have a direct and special revelation from God in his inspired, written word. We KNOW for a fact when we open and read it we are reading the words of God. Why would we not put that above something that we are unsure of?
How, exactly, do you KNOW that??? Ordering the bashing of babies heads on rocks or gutting of pregnant women with swords does NOT immediately bespeak words of God to me.
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Old 12-05-2017, 12:12 AM
 
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If I do find a contradiction between what my heart is telling me and the bible, I will use scripture to find the truth because if you dig deep enough in the word of God, you will find your answer, that is, if you use with discernment.

I searched scripture and came to believe in UR about 10 years ago.The bible did enlighten me. I studied the best scriptures supposedly proving ET and found out that forever really means aion which is just a period of time that God has allotted. Each other verse that troubled me I could find more than enough scripture or evidence to counter that.

By the way, the word is already written in our hearts, it is called a conscience. I know sociopaths don't have one but that is another subject.

Sociopaths have one too, theirs is just seared with a hot iron (creating thick scar tissue/harness of heart) from unrepentant sin. Peace
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Old 12-05-2017, 07:41 AM
 
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Sociopaths have one too, theirs is just seared with a hot iron (creating thick scar tissue/harness of heart) from unrepentant sin. Peace
Did you ever wonder how God breaks the vicious cycle of unrepentant sin? If we are slaves to sin we can't do it ourselves, correct?

What I have come to believe on how He does it...think of an evil villain hanging from a cliff by a finger and the hero in the movie who was victimized brutally by him pulls him up to his safety instead of just lifting the finger. These are the hot coals He uses and they work every time.
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Old 12-05-2017, 07:59 AM
 
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Ours, Richard - every human heart.
Well, where is this alluded to?...
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Old 12-05-2017, 08:08 AM
 
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Did you ever wonder how God breaks the vicious cycle of unrepentant sin? If we are slaves to sin we can't do it ourselves, correct?

What I have come to believe on how He does it...think of an evil villain hanging from a cliff by a finger and the hero in the movie who was victimized brutally by him pulls him up to his safety instead of just lifting the finger. These are the hot coals He uses and they work every time.

Some by love, others by fear. Being broken comes in different forms. Peace
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Old 12-05-2017, 11:23 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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Some by love, others by fear. Being broken comes in different forms. Peace
Love casts out fear, and heals the brokenhearted.
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Old 12-05-2017, 11:25 AM
 
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Love casts out fear, and heals the brokenhearted.

Fear of the Lord, the beginning of wisdom, is nothing like the fear of man. Peace
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Old 12-05-2017, 11:45 AM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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Fear of the Lord, the beginning of wisdom, is nothing like the fear of man. Peace
If you fear your lord, the beginning of wisdom would be to get out of Dodge.
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Old 12-05-2017, 01:05 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Some by love, others by fear. Being broken comes in different forms. Peace
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Love casts out fear, and heals the brokenhearted.
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Fear of the Lord, the beginning of wisdom, is nothing like the fear of man. Peace
So, what are really saying, when you say "some by love, others by fear?"
Because it appears that you changed the goal posts to reverence.
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