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What says the collective? is judgment the same time for both?
As an aside I had a Pastor of a large denomination give a sermon on judgment and he maintained that for the believer it would be like a video of your past misdeeds on a large screen........then you would be judged....hhhmmmmm?
What says the collective? is judgment the same time for both?
As an aside I had a Pastor of a large denomination give a sermon on judgment and he maintained that for the believer it would be like a video of your past misdeeds on a large screen........then you would be judged....hhhmmmmm?
Romans 8:1 says that there is no condemnation for those that are in Christ Jesus. Believers will not face judgment in the sense that it's a question of heaven or hell.
Revelation 20:11-15 says:
11 Then I saw a great white throne and Him who sat upon it, from whose presence bearth and heaven fled away, and cno place was found for them.
12 And I saw the dead, the great and the small, standing before the throne, and books were opened; and another book was opened, which is the book of life; and the dead were judged from the things which were written in the 1books, according to their deeds.
13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead which were in them; and they were judged, every one of them according to their deeds.
14 Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire.
15 And if anyone’s name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire."
There is the idea that people will be judged for their sins. The ones that are in Christ are not going to be tossed into the lake of fire. They will be spared.
So....why are believers judged? Remember when Jesus said to lay up treasures in heaven? We will be rewarded based on our works. We will still be in heaven, but we may be rewarded MORE for what we've done to serve him here.
Every person judges themselves at the time of earthly death, not some "god."
You will be confronted with your misdeeds. You will feel horrible shame. You will not be able to make excuses or to look away. Your psyche will be stripped bare.
What says the collective? is judgment the same time for both?
As an aside I had a Pastor of a large denomination give a sermon on judgment and he maintained that for the believer it would be like a video of your past misdeeds on a large screen........then you would be judged....hhhmmmmm?
The Bible makes a distinction between the judgment seat of Christ which is for believers (1 Cor. 3:11-15; 2 Cor. 5:10), and the great white throne judgment at the end of the Millennial kingdom (Rev. 20:11-15), as well as the judgment of the nations which will take place after the Tribulation and just before the Millennial kingdom is set up on the earth (Matt. 25:31-46).
For the believer in Christ Jesus, the judgment seat of Christ is actually an evaluation for the purpose of rewards. His sins will not be mentioned since all sin was judged at the cross.
For the unbeliever who appears at the great white throne judgment, his sins will not be mentioned either since his sins were also judged at the cross. Since Jesus has already paid the penalty for our sins we are not condemned for our sins. The unbeliever will be condemned on the basis of his works. No matter how many good works the unbeliever may do in his life those works are all produced on the basis of his relative and imperfect righteousness. But God cannot accept anything which comes from man's imperfect righteousness. Since God's righteousness is absolute and perfect He requires the same from man. But man's imperfect righteousness can never measure up to the perfect standard of God.
Since the unbeliever never received Christ as Savior he never received the imputation of Jesus' perfect righteousness (Romans chapters 3-5). Therefore, when he appears at the great white throne judgment he will have only his own imperfect righteousness to stand on. So all of his good works will be brought up and shown to be insufficient. And it is by his own works that he will be condemned.
At the judgment of the nations (Matthew 25:31-46), the works of the sheep (believers) and the works of the goats (unbelievers) will be mentioned. Because of the lawlessness which will exist during the Tribulation, the love of most people will grow cold as stated in Matthew 24:12. During that time, a person will be shown to be a believer by his works and the unbeliever will be shown by his lack of compassion toward the Jews. The believer will not be saved by his works, but will simply be shown to be a believer by his works. And the sheep will go into the kingdom and the goats will go into the eternal fire according to the passage.
What says the collective? is judgment the same time for both?
As an aside I had a Pastor of a large denomination give a sermon on judgment and he maintained that for the believer it would be like a video of your past misdeeds on a large screen........then you would be judged....hhhmmmmm?
At the Great Day of Judgement the believer will not since s\he is covered with Jesus' righteousness whereas the unbeliever will be exposed for their vile.
At the Great Day of Judgement the believer will not since s\he is covered with Jesus' righteousness whereas the unbeliever will be exposed for their vile.
Every person judges themselves at the time of earthly death, not some "god."
You will be confronted with your misdeeds. You will feel horrible shame. You will not be able to make excuses or to look away. Your psyche will be stripped bare.
No holy book or magic words will spare you.
You are correct, in that we will all be ashamed of our deeds. We will not be able to make excuses.
The good news is that the Christian will still be welcomed into heaven based on the righteousness of Jesus--not our own. The one that doesn't have Jesus will be lost in their sin and shame, and be tossed in the lake of fire.
You can come to Jesus. He will forgive you if you believe in him.
You are correct, in that we will all be ashamed of our deeds. We will not be able to make excuses.
The good news is that the Christian will still be welcomed into heaven based on the righteousness of Jesus--not our own. The one that doesn't have Jesus will be lost in their sin and shame, and be tossed in the lake of fire.
You can come to Jesus. He will forgive you if you believe in him.
Your ability to be consistently wrong is almost becoming charming.
Every person judges themselves at the time of earthly death, not some "god."
You will be confronted with your misdeeds. You will feel horrible shame. You will not be able to make excuses or to look away. Your psyche will be stripped bare.
No holy book or magic words will spare you.
They don't seem to know what reaping what we sow actually means, Trout.
Believers with Christ will be judged the same as unbelievers if the believer fails to reconcile sin and leans to iniquity which will cancel out faith , and could be a grave error for the here after .....
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