Will Satan be saved? (crucifixion, Gospel, myth, punishment)

[DRob4JC]

Originally Posted by granpa

Doesnt say "of God"

And even if it did I would interpret the phrase wrath of God as meaning Wrath of all which means Wrath of infinity or infinite Wrath.

Romans 5:9 - Much more then, having now been justified by His blood, we shall be saved from the wrath of God through Him.

NASB word for word translation.

You can call it what you want... God is the source of this wrath.

[granpa]

Young's Literal Translation
much more, then, having been declared righteous now in his blood, we shall be saved through him from the wrath

http://biblehub.com/interlinear/romans/5-9.htm

[DRob4JC]

Originally Posted by granpa

Young's Literal Translation
much more, then, having been declared righteous now in his blood, we shall be saved through him from the wrath

Romans 5:9 Interlinear: much more, then, having been declared righteous now in his blood, we shall be saved through him from the wrath;

It's the same wrath mentioned earlier in Romans 1:18.

Young's Literal

Romans 1:18 - for revealed is the wrath of God from heaven upon all impiety and unrighteousness of men

[granpa]

Or it could be referring to this

Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.

2 Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.

3 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same:

4 For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.

[DRob4JC]

Originally Posted by granpa

Or it could be referring to this

Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.

2 Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.

3 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same:

4 For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.

Believers are not saved from earthly governments.

[granpa]

No they are saved from Satan the Accuser. God's prosecutor

[granpa]

So according to your understanding God is going to save us from the wrath of God? And you don't see anything wrong with that?

[granpa]

There was this mugger once that saved me from a muggers knife. I was so afraid that I was going to get stabbed. I am so grateful that the mugger saved me. And all I had to do was give him my wallet

[DRob4JC]

Originally Posted by granpa

So according to your understanding God is going to save us from the wrath of God? And you don't see anything wrong with that?

God is protecting us from Himself with regards to how He handles sin. To be in the direct presence of God with sin is terrible beyond any human imagination.

Moses came down from the mountain after being with God for forty days. Moses got a tiny glimpse of God's light. The reflection from seeing God remained on him when He came down from the mountain. People who saw Moses ran away in total fear just from the tiny bit of reflection that remained on Moses. Now try being in the full force of God's presence - and you can't escape anywhere.

We are saved from God and how He deals with sin.

[granpa]

So you don't think God would understand?