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Old 04-10-2018, 09:46 AM
 
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That’s what Jeremiah 31:30 says....
-- And God tried--He sent the Messiah to them--they rejected him. At that point in time-God was not with Israel-- No armies of earth could defeat Israel if God was with them. The romans ruled them at that point because they had apostocised for the gazillionth time. The last straw was sending the one God sent to them to his death.--He cut them off( Matt 23:37-39)-- but did leave the door open.
I know you have different views on the matter.
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Old 04-10-2018, 09:57 AM
 
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WHERE in scripture does it state that there is no salvation, only condemnation, for gay people? Either come up with the goods which can then be discussed in a reasonable and theological manner ...or go away and take your ignorant message with you.
(1). Levi.20:13-If a man also lie with mankind, as he lie with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them. here was part of the Laws of Moses, in which Jehovah God allowed for his people. (2). Levi.-18:22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination. (3). Rom. 1:27 Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due. (verse 26 refers to women).

now people sometimes look for key words in order to believe what Jehovah God meant. years ago women have said, the bible said "men laying with men, nothing about women." trying to excluded themselves from this wicked act. but Jehovah Gave humans the commonsense and intelligence to understand. we know if it says men, it also meant women. even though MANY " Christians" seem to accept this lifestyle, it's wrong in the eyes of ALL Heavenly beings. and it should be that way to those who follow Jesus and obeys his Father ,have to love the good and hate the bad, (Romans 12:9). we can't justify what God sees as wicked ,(Pro. 17:15).

and i know this was about homosexuality. but what MANY "Christians seem to forget is the fact that those committing homosexuality isn't the only who will be destroyed, UNLESS, they change their ways ,(2Cor. 7:1 Having therefore these promises, dearly beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all filthiness of the flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God).
see also , (Rom. 12:2 And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God).

it's not ONLY those living an gay lifestyle which would have to change. but also fornicators, adulterers, and those who follow the ways of the world. instead of doing Jesus Father's "WILL" ,(Matt. 7:21). just because we are "Christians" doesn't mean we have an automatic first class ticket to Heaven, as MANY believe they do have, even though they are... "fornicators", Adulterers", and especially those who having sex out of marriage, and we all know who we are! so Jehovah God and Jesus will NOT allow ANYONE, to pass through the Great Tribulation, who refuses to change. remember the flood?, ONLY eight survived! peace
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Old 04-10-2018, 10:18 AM
 
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-- And God tried--He sent the Messiah to them--they rejected him. At that point in time-God was not with Israel-- No armies of earth could defeat Israel if God was with them. The romans ruled them at that point because they had apostocised for the gazillionth time. The last straw was sending the one God sent to them to his death.--He cut them off( Matt 23:37-39)-- but did leave the door open.
I know you have different views on the matter.
Yeah, that directly contradicts what God said of Judah.
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Old 04-10-2018, 06:54 PM
 
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-- And God tried--He sent the Messiah to them--they rejected him. At that point in time-God was not with Israel-- No armies of earth could defeat Israel if God was with them. The romans ruled them at that point because they had apostocised for the gazillionth time. The last straw was sending the one God sent to them to his death.--He cut them off( Matt 23:37-39)-- but did leave the door open.
I know you have different views on the matter.
G-d said He was going to make the New Covenant with the houses of Judah and Israel and I believe G-d over you...
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Old 04-10-2018, 11:17 PM
 
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G-d said He was going to make the New Covenant with the houses of Judah and Israel and I believe G-d over you...
Nothing self-serving about that!
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Old 04-11-2018, 02:31 PM
 
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Yeah, that directly contradicts what God said of Judah.

Isnt the tribe of Judah( spiritual Israel )represented in revelation? It is not literal Israel. To this day they out right refuse to do Matthew 23:37-39)-- Jesus started a new religion Acts 24:5--These serve-YHWH(Jehovah) as the only true God-The Father. And accept Jesus as the one sent forth by God-the Messiah. His appointed king( Daniel 7:13-15, 1Corinthians 15:24-28)Rev 6)
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Old 04-11-2018, 02:37 PM
 
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G-d said He was going to make the New Covenant with the houses of Judah and Israel and I believe G-d over you...
And we have shown you Jesus brought a new covenant. God could see man could not live and enter his kingdom on written laws, it had to be from the heart. Jesus tried to help Israel stand, they rejected him because he was a lowly carpenters son. They were expecting a mighty king to arrive, defeat the romans on the spot--but even you can see at that point God was not with them if Rome had rule over them. God still loved Israel he tried by sending his best-Michael who became Jesus. His master worker of Proverbs 8.
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Old 04-11-2018, 03:37 PM
 
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Isnt the tribe of Judah( spiritual Israel )represented in revelation? It is not literal Israel. To this day they out right refuse to do Matthew 23:37-39)-- Jesus started a new religion Acts 24:5--These serve-YHWH(Jehovah) as the only true God-The Father. And accept Jesus as the one sent forth by God-the Messiah. His appointed king( Daniel 7:13-15, 1Corinthians 15:24-28)Rev 6)
Jesus did not start a new religion.


Those Israelis in Revelation keep the commandments of God, does this sound like Gentiles to you?
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Old 04-11-2018, 04:16 PM
 
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And we have shown you Jesus brought a new covenant. God could see man could not live and enter his kingdom on written laws, it had to be from the heart. Jesus tried to help Israel stand, they rejected him because he was a lowly carpenters son. They were expecting a mighty king to arrive, defeat the romans on the spot--but even you can see at that point God was not with them if Rome had rule over them. God still loved Israel he tried by sending his best-Michael who became Jesus. His master worker of Proverbs 8.
For there is nothing hidden that will not be disclosed, and nothing concealed that will not be known or brought out into the open.
there are many a messianic community that has remained for thousands of yrs.

carefull, the enemies seed is destitute and so the gnawing and gnashing has begun.


if you know what honor is found in visiting orphans and widows and keep Honor present with a considerable love and kindness.
Can you, or have you ever walked with any who have asked to see the Redeemer Yeshua in all of Scripture.

The Victory of the Cross fully showed us that the prince of this world was acting as it always had.
And our Lord Let us See it. So that no one would have to endure the same lie.
The priesthood and council that demanded his capital punishment used a gentile nation and gentiles laws to execute our Redeemer.
What does this tell you about the evil of a nation of priest at a time when they should be The ambassadors of the Lord.?
If you look at the history of the greek and romans interactions with The Whole house of the princes of Yisrael,.
The greek and roman nations crept in and Bribed all the leaders and set them up with titles.

Then the leaders extorted from the poor of their own people.
So When Our King arrived in that generation, They were entirely caught off guard..
And so as the Good news spread, they new their titles were going to be destroyed by the Holy One who Is the true lawgiver.

As for that generation of filthy luciferian, judas, blood thirsty two fold sons of perdition.

An Example was given to Everyone in the World what seed was at work.

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Old 04-11-2018, 04:23 PM
 
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This question is for Christians and particularly for those Christians who STILL use Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13 to aim at gay people in an attempt to make them squirm.

The question is an easy one to answer. It's either 'yes' or 'no'. However, if it is 'yes' then a brief explanation will be required.

The question: Do you HONESTLY give a damn about ANY of the commands of Leviticus?

This could be a very short thread .. .
“When he comes, he will show that the world is wrong about sin, about righteousness and about judgment — 9 about sin, in that people don’t put their trust in me; 10 about righteousness, in that I am going to the Father and you will no longer see me; 11 about judgment, in that the ruler of this world has been judged.

convict the world of sin?
in the world not of it,.
the cares of this world choke out the Word.

So, romu, what concern of it is to you, that something has been Written in the Holy Scriptures?
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