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Old 03-12-2018, 06:45 PM
 
Location: New England
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Originally Posted by Penny4YourThoughts View Post
pccamps here it is again. I've respectively addressed your bible verse in John Chapter 10 verse 11 pertaining to what is known as the trinity.

You omitted verses before and afterwards which places your sole sentence, in context.

the Bible verse you singled out is in the book of John Chapter 10.
Hopefully I am assuming correctly that you chose it because you believe it??
If not, I apologize.
Please correct me.

10 Don’t you believe that I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me? The words I say to you I do not speak on my own authority. Rather, it is the Father, living in me, who is doing his work. 11 Believe me when I say that I am in the Father and the Father is in me; or at least believe on the evidence of the works themselves. 12 Very truly I tell you, whoever believes in me will do the works I have been doing, and they will do even greater things than these, because I am going to the Father. 13 And I will do whatever you ask in my name, so that the Father may be glorified in the Son. 14 You may ask me for anything in my name, and I will do it.

What Jesus is saying here....
is that despite me being PRESENT with you IN THE FLESH for your eyes to see me,
hands to touch my body,
ears to hear my words
you still do not believe in me Phillip??
you still do not know who I am Phillip?
Three persons in one, Phillip??
that I and the father....are one??

Have you not heard my communications Phillip with your ears in order to know me,
to believe in me,
to have a relationship with me>????

Re-read the above ^^^. What he is conveying has MANY implications.

It assumes reason you know his word,
which AT THAT TIME was communicated thru hearing using human ears
but now is communicated thru using his written word,
Is that you know this because he's revealed it to you thru his method of communication
That the father, and the Holy Spirit are one.
They are working together, 3 persons in one,
to communicate the Fathers word to us so we may know him.
Have a relationship with him via communication, the only avenue
Otherwise He becomes a stranger to us
If you have seen me you have seen the Father...... Do you really think Jesus was referring to his outward appearance or the life that flowed out of him, that Philip was not recognizing, although that Life had been present with him for so long?. That is the story of all of mankind, the Life is in and around us, yet we fail to see it.
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Old 03-12-2018, 06:45 PM
 
Location: Southern Oregon
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There is 3 bible verses in the post you are referring to.
Again, Penny fails to ask WHY you believe the truth of the quotation and goes on to assume because it is the authority of what was written rather than the authkority of the
Spirit that confirms what is written in this particular place,
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Old 03-12-2018, 06:46 PM
 
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Can self professed Christians who reject the power of the Holy Spirit be saved?

Lol! It is the Christians who have the holy Spirit. You make outlandish accusations.

Tell me where your like minded is online As I woul like to join and show them the Truth
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Old 03-12-2018, 06:51 PM
 
Location: New England
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Again, Penny fails to ask WHY you believe the truth of the quotation and goes on to assume because it is the authority of what was written rather than the authkority of the
Spirit that confirms what is written in this particular place,
Yes i see that, and rainmusic is spot on in recognizing that he "thinks" he's trying to trap me.
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Old 03-12-2018, 06:51 PM
 
Location: California
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Again, Penny fails to ask WHY you believe the truth of the quotation and goes on to assume because it is the authority of what was written rather than the authkority of the
Spirit that confirms what is written in this particular place,

It's really quite simple

Acts 17:11 Now the Berean Jews were of more noble character than those in Thessalonica, for they received the message with great eagerness and examined the Scriptures every day to see if what Paul said was true.

We are not to believe anything except by examining it with the scriptures which is TRUTH.

Please people, don't believe ANYTHING posted here on this forum or otherwise without comparing it to the truth, the scriptures.
See Acts 17:11. ALSO examine the scriptures DAILY.
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Old 03-12-2018, 06:54 PM
 
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Again, Penny fails to ask WHY you believe the truth of the quotation and goes on to assume because it is the authority of what was written rather than the authkority of the
Spirit that confirms what is written in this particular place,

Tell us do you believe there is one God made up three persons that all three are omniscient, omnipresent and omnipotent?
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Old 03-12-2018, 06:54 PM
 
Location: New England
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I've quoted scripture which tells of how one obtains the Holy Spirit.
Also how we are to be Berea's verifying everything we are taught or told which is outside the bible with the bible

It's really quite simple.
It does not say we have to be Berean verifying. The disciples preached Christ not the bible, they pointed the hearer to the one the scriptures testified of. They did not preach Christ to turn us to the bible.
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Old 03-12-2018, 06:57 PM
 
Location: New England
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Tell us do you believe there is one God made up three persons that all three are omniscient, omnipresent and omnipotent?
No, i believe One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and more to the point in all.
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Old 03-12-2018, 06:59 PM
 
Location: Southern Oregon
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No, i believe One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and more to the point in all.
You just got tossed into sumtingy Hell. Need a fan?
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Old 03-12-2018, 07:02 PM
 
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You just got tossed into sumtingy Hell. Need a fan?


Tell us nateswift, do you believe there is one God made up three persons that all three are omniscient, omnipresent and omnipotent?
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