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Old 03-17-2018, 10:37 PM
 
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I've been a Christian since a young child and was baptized at 31 and I believe in the bible and the life, death and resurrection of Jesus.

My brother recently has questioned creation of Adam and eve and he thinks they came from a group of neandrathals that have DNA that is supposedly 99% related to human DNA.

What say you?
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Old 03-18-2018, 03:30 AM
 
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Adam and Eve were created by the miracle of the Creator Lord God . while they already been animal human type people living on the earth before Adam and Eve is beside the point ....... God created Adam and Eve to interact with Him so God would have a family that would be with Him forever .... Just Like Jesus who was also created and placed in Mary, as she is a surrogate mother for God begotten son ............ See God is the creator even thought the dominate science community place science in with atheism by the logic of physics , as physics rejects miracles of substance even though science cannot explain the start of the universe which came from nothing
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Old 03-18-2018, 05:36 AM
 
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I've been a Christian since a young child and was baptized at 31 and I believe in the bible and the life, death and resurrection of Jesus.

My brother recently has questioned creation of Adam and eve and he thinks they came from a group of neandrathals that have DNA that is supposedly 99% related to human DNA.

What say you?
I think you both you need to do some learning. clarity, logic, and reason start with engineering, chemistry, biology, and physics. my suggestion is to keep "how the universe works" as a base for any belief.

Believe what you want, but keep commonsense at the forfront.
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Old 03-18-2018, 06:22 AM
 
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I've been a Christian since a young child and was baptized at 31 and I believe in the bible and the life, death and resurrection of Jesus.

My brother recently has questioned creation of Adam and eve and he thinks they came from a group of neandrathals that have DNA that is supposedly 99% related to human DNA.

What say you?
God starts with what he already has. We see it with Eve coming out of Adam. And with Moses's rod in his hand. The only caveat is that it was "according to their kinds he created them", i.e. a bird is not a fish.

If there were Neanderthals, so what. Adam was different.

The Bible is only about Adamic mankind. You need gap theory between Gen 1:1 and 1:2 for dinosaurs and pre-hominid man. It was formless and void, then God did a new thing.
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Old 03-18-2018, 07:52 AM
 
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I've been a Christian since a young child and was baptized at 31 and I believe in the bible and the life, death and resurrection of Jesus.

My brother recently has questioned creation of Adam and eve and he thinks they came from a group of neandrathals that have DNA that is supposedly 99% related to human DNA.

What say you?
You have believed in the works of Jesus without seeing Him........that is FAITH

Trying to explain the supernatural with the natural is futility......

The triune God made a decision to have fellowship with free agent beings eons ago.....and we see it playing out today as foretold in His book......
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Old 03-18-2018, 08:35 AM
 
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I've been a Christian since a young child and was baptized at 31 and I believe in the bible and the life, death and resurrection of Jesus.

My brother recently has questioned creation of Adam and eve and he thinks they came from a group of neandrathals that have DNA that is supposedly 99% related to human DNA.

What say you?
The problem is not with science but with the notion of scriptural inerrancy. God created the universe. God created the mechanisms of how the universe developed over unimaginably long periods of time. If one sees the story of Adam and Eve as a figurative explanation of how mankind distanced itself from God, then there is no conflict between science and faith.

However, if we read the story of Adam and Eve as literal, all kinds of problems arise. Cain kills Abel, then skedaddles into the land of Nod where he meets his wife and they build a city. Where did she come from? Obviously, Cain's wife is not his sister or he would have known her as part of his family. And if they built a city, where did all its inhabitants come from? Not from the loins of Eve.

But if the creation story of Genesis is figurative, then there's no conflict between science and faith. Viewed through that lens, the creation narrative works pretty well, beginning with "Let there be light," describing the Big Bang, the formation of the earth, the sea, the growth of vegetation, and animals, culminating in the advent of man.

In short, DNA is scientific fact and it doesn't diminish God's glory one bit.

But you're touching on the chief problem with the belief in an inerrant Bible. Literalism requires that every single verse be precisely true. That's not faith. It's the precise opposite of faith. Instead, it's the requirement of proof.

This is why literalists must defend every syllable of the Bible, even the creation story, tooth and nail. Because if you pull a single thread out of the tapestry, their entire system of belief falls apart. Meanwhile, those who can read Genesis in context can see science as a verification of God's miraculous creation, not a threat to it.
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Old 03-18-2018, 08:39 AM
 
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The blind leading the blind comes to mind. Two people who have no understanding of science probably shouldn't discuss it, particularly in relation to matters of faith.
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Old 03-18-2018, 08:44 AM
 
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I've been a Christian since a young child and was baptized at 31 and I believe in the bible and the life, death and resurrection of Jesus.

My brother recently has questioned creation of Adam and eve and he thinks they came from a group of neandrathals that have DNA that is supposedly 99% related to human DNA.

What say you?
This will answer any questions he my have,


https://www.urantia.org/urantia-book...4-adam-and-eve
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Old 03-18-2018, 10:26 AM
 
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In truth, if you want to fully understand the intersection of faith and science, you could do worse than to read John Polkinghorne, a former Cambridge professor of particle physics who left academia to become an Anglican priest.

https://onbeing.org/programs/john-po...-and-creation/
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Old 03-18-2018, 10:55 AM
 
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I believe in some type of Panspermia.

We were likely created by some other more advanced civilization. However Im not sure WHY we were created, it could have been an experiment or some other purpose that we cannot understand.
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