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Old 04-06-2018, 09:59 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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Do you believe this punishment is eternal just because someone doesn't believe what you do?
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No one believes there is a punishment for "not believing as you/I do". It is a strange question. It is necessary to believe in Him.

For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
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Nowhere are we called to believe in eternal torment.
So, don't go weeping and gnashing your teeth.

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It is far more necessary to believe him, than believe in him, (i can explain if you do not know the difference) if you don't you are like the people with no vision, just perishing through life as if God is not in your world.
Listening is about following the truth, the way and life of him.
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Old 04-06-2018, 11:15 AM
 
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It is far more necessary to believe him,than believe in him,(i can explain if you do not know the difference) if you don't you are like the people with no vision, just perishing through life as if God is not in your world.
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Old 04-06-2018, 03:07 PM
 
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Cardinal Burke: Scalfari Episode ‘Went Beyond What Is Tolerable’


Cardinal Burke: Scalfari Episode ‘Went Beyond What Is Tolerable’


The American cardinal says the recent ‘interview’ regarding hell was a ‘profound scandal,’ and that the Holy Father is not only failing to proclaim the Church’s constant doctrine and sound discipline but also ‘increasing the confusion’ over crucial issues.
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Well the interviewer is an atheist, an old man, does not make notes in the interview, then goes by memory to write his article. I would say accept only about a fourth of it. LOL

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Old 04-06-2018, 11:14 PM
 
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Cardinal Burke: Scalfari Episode ‘Went Beyond What Is Tolerable’


Cardinal Burke: Scalfari Episode ‘Went Beyond What Is Tolerable’


The American cardinal says the recent ‘interview’ regarding hell was a ‘profound scandal,’ and that the Holy Father is not only failing to proclaim the Church’s constant doctrine and sound discipline but also ‘increasing the confusion’ over crucial issues.
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Well the interviewer is an atheist, an old man, does not make notes in the interview, then goes by memory to write his article. I would say accept only about a fourth of it. LOL
Wouldn't it be interesting if the Pope would clear up the issue by issuing a complete statement of his own?
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Old 04-07-2018, 01:31 AM
 
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Wouldn't it be interesting if the Pope would clear up the issue by issuing a complete statement of his own?
Yes, that would sure help. He has spoken about hell many times so he does know it exists. Perplexing how he acts here.
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Old 04-07-2018, 12:21 PM
 
Location: Finland
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Belief in hell is ridiculous.
To not to believe in Hell is deceiving and dangers.

It's very important also to fear God, that's how you also give all respect to him, even if you are not sure something in your life. You still respect him and you will find the answers in your questions which do not strike against God's values.
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Old 04-07-2018, 12:23 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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To not to believe in Hell is deceiving and dangers.

It's very important also to fear God, that's how you also give all respect to him, even if you are not sure something in your life. You still respect him.
I don't respect mass murderers.
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Old 04-07-2018, 12:39 PM
 
Location: Red River Texas
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To not to believe in Hell is deceiving and dangers.

It's very important also to fear God, that's how you also give all respect to him, even if you are not sure something in your life. You still respect him and you will find the answers in your questions which do not strike against God's values.
Trout is correct.


Every scripture you see of hell is about the rain of the feast of Tabernacles. There are 3 sections of the temple, and thus 3 sections of the temple in heaven. The outer court is where people go and weep and gnash their teeth, their fire is never quenched but it isn't speaking of literal fire, their worm shall never die, and this doesn't speak of worms, it teaches of seeds needing water.


Learn the Temple and it's comings and goings and you will have a different idea about hell, hell is where you live amongst immortals, but you are still alive and well.
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Old 04-07-2018, 01:24 PM
 
Location: On the brink of WWIII
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Yes, that would sure help. He has spoken about hell many times so he does know it exists. Perplexing how he acts here.
so the pope know for a fact whether or not there is a place called hell? Other an the town 10 miles south of me named HELL, Michigan...they have the COLDEST drinks and best ice-scream around...
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Old 04-07-2018, 01:44 PM
 
Location: Southwestern, USA, now.
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Neither was it a punishment for disobeying God.... God knew exactly what would happen when he said "Do not eat of that tree"(It wasn't a test to see what they'd do).......... there was not an option until he said that, for as far as Adam and Eve were concerned ALL that He made was Good and that's all there was.. We come to this world of death(knowledge of good AND evil) to remember and return to the one we "thought" we were separated from(An illusion behind all that appears evil). If only Adam had said ..... Hang on God, i thought you said everything you made was only good, what's all this about then, there's actually something other than good out here?.
You should be Pope and talk to the people, pcamps.
I mean it...you or Greg Braden....(anyone could goggle him.)
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