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It is difficult for those who have been led-astray to acknowledge their errors.
Especially, when reality is not a part of their beliefs-system.
The tactics used by them are crystal clear and blatantly visible to all. Under a bogus guise of intellect and superiority, they resort to games that reveal the depths of their foolishness and depravity.
You're overreacting by making statements such as There is a growing movement of flat-earth believers, with no evidence, and many Christians are idiots, which you know is an attack. Playing innocent won't work. You can't talk your way out of it.
I never heard such a thing in Christian circles till now. To say the Old Testament projects the idea of flat earth is suspect. I have to admit, I did not nor will not click on yet another wild theory. After first 100 claims reading about some radical subject concerning the Scriptures gets tiresome. Then, after researching the real truth, you eventually find that is nothing more than made up nonsense.
I never heard such a thing in Christian circles till now. To say the Old Testament projects the idea of flat earth is suspect.
This is a paper ghost, a fabrication. Truth has taken a holiday. These types of things only require someone with a keyboard, an agenda, and a platform. It's child's play to make false declarations to the world, especially with the good ol' Internet around. We have to see it for what it is.
If you smell a skunk, don't be surprised by black and white fur nearby.
This is a paper ghost, a fabrication. Truth has taken a holiday. These types of things only require someone with a keyboard, an agenda, and a platform. It's child's play to make false declarations to the world, especially with the good ol' Internet around. We have to see it for what it is.
If you smell a skunk, don't be surprised by black and white fur nearby.
Gahhh! Dog got skunked last year. I will never forget the smell.
In the interest of truth I prefer to address it. You might want to read my posts on the issue in the other thread - Christianity and science
God did not find it necessary to correct the Biblical writers understanding of the cosmos in order to communicate His message to them. If you really want to understand the Bible you have to understand it within the time and culture in which it was written.
i already responded in that thread.
the flat earth visual illustrations have been warped through out history, even in western curriculum.
they once taught young children a perverse historical motive for the spread of spanish, english, french and other trade barons theft of arable land.
i specifically abhorred the lying historical curriculum offered very early on in my somewhat formal education.
what is worse is exactly how specific educational institutions have been funded by the U. S federal reserve for how many yrs now, exactly?
The institutions themselves are now suspect of defrauding people for a few hundred yrs that i know of.
So basically the 'flatearthers' are a result of people not being able to cope with the reality of the situation that is currently happening around the globe.
If they are of the faithful, explain to them that you understand that they have been lied to. And that they are Rightfully angered.
Of course the Bible was never intended to be a scientific treatise. That's why the creation accounts in the Bible are not literal but are polemic attacks on the creation stories of Israel's neighbors.
But the ancient Hebrews did believe that the earth was flat.
Whaaaaaaat?/
alright, who told you this nonsense?
04-16-2018, 08:20 PM
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Daniel 4:10-11
Here are the visions of my mind while I was on my bed. While I was watching,
there was a tree in the middle of the land.
It was enormously tall.
The tree grew large and strong.
Its top reached far into the sky;
it could be seen from the borders of all the land.16
Footnote 16 - Or “to the end of all the earth” (so KJV, ASV); NCV, CEV “from anywhere on earth.”
Why not listen to the lecture that I posted in post #4 in which Old Testament scholar Michael Heiser talks at length about Old Testament cosmology of the ancient Hebrews? I'll post it again below. He's not making anything up but is relaying what scholars have long known.
The average Christian has never actually studied the Bible. Reading it is not studying it. But Old Testament Biblical scholars understand that ancient Israel shared with its Ancient Near Eastern neighbors a cosmic geography which viewed the earth as a flat round disk supported on pillars with a hard dome firmament above and and underworld below.
Click on the link below to view pictures of this cosmic geography. I can't post an image because of copyright issues. But you can go into it and see the images for yourself.
Biblical cosmology is the biblical writers' conception of the cosmos as an organised, structured entity, including its origin, order, meaning and destiny.[¹][²] The Bible was formed over many centuries, involving many authors, and reflects shifting patterns of religious belief; consequently, its cosmology is not always consistent. [³][⁴] Nor do the biblical texts necessarily represent the beliefs of all Jews or Christians at the time they were put into writing: the majority of those making up Hebrew Bible or Old Testament in particular represent the beliefs of only a small segment of the ancient Israelite community, the members of a late Judean religious tradition centered in Jerusalem and devoted to the exclusive worship of Yahweh. [⁵]
The ancient Israelites envisaged a universe made up of a flat disc-shaped earth floating on water, heaven above, underworld below.[⁶] Humans inhabited earth during life and the underworld after death, and the underworld was morally neutral;[⁷] only in Hellenistic times (after c.330 BCE) did Jews begin to adopt the Greek idea that it would be a place of punishment for misdeeds, and that the righteous would enjoy an afterlife in heaven.[⁸] In this period too the older three-level cosmology in large measure gave way to the Greek concept of a spherical earth suspended in space at the center of a number of concentric heavens.[⁶]
I've read the entire Bible through three times, and know there is nothing in it teaching a flat-earth concept. This thread is complete nonsense, and I'll continue to point that out.
Anyone with an axe to grind and a story to tell can attempt to make the Bible say this or that. It doesn't mean squat. Fabrications are fabrications. We're not falling for those games.
Wikipedia is not a scientific journal. It's a public site than any average Joe can contribute to and edit. If you rely on that for facts and in-depth research, the joke is again on you. That's laughable to even see it used as genuine scholarly research. Wikipedia, LOL!!!!!
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