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Old 05-27-2018, 07:10 AM
 
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If you are a fundamentalist, then you tell me?
You made the claim, and I should explain it?

Fine, let me explain what it means. It means nothing. It is nonsense. A straw man argument.
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Old 05-27-2018, 07:13 AM
 
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Didn't he refer to others as hypocrites? Whitewashed tombs?
So, judging others reflects the mindset of Christ?

No, Jesus did not instruct His followers to judge others. Universalists make a hobby out of judging Christins, and they always try to justify it somehow.
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Old 05-27-2018, 07:28 AM
 
Location: New England
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So, judging others reflects the mindset of Christ?

No, Jesus did not instruct His followers to judge others. Universalists make a hobby out of judging Christins, and they always try to justify it somehow.
That's rich coming from you, you have defended a right you believe God gave you to judge sin in others on numerous occasions on this forum.
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Old 05-27-2018, 09:32 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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Why do fundamentalists' believe you have to see yourself as unworthy?
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Unworthy for what?
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If you are a fundamentalist, then you tell me?
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You made the claim, and I should explain it?

Fine, let me explain what it means. It means nothing. It is nonsense. A straw man argument.
I am not the one who has taken the view that ALL are sinners, nor that human righteousness in nothing but filthy rags?
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Old 05-27-2018, 09:37 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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I have no interest in trying to understand the mind of a Christian fundamentalist. They typically do not match the mindset and attitude of Christ, which is all I need to know. I'll stick with focusing on Christ, the "real deal", instead of a fraud.
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You have a strange way to focus on Christ, because calling other people frauds is pretty far from matching the mindset of Christ.
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Didn't he refer to others as hypocrites? Whitewashed tombs?
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So, judging others reflects the mindset of Christ?

No, Jesus did not instruct His followers to judge others. Universalists make a hobby out of judging Christians, and they always try to justify it somehow.
If someone is a hypocrite, does that mean you have judged them or they have condemned themselves by their own words?
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Old 05-27-2018, 09:41 AM
 
Location: Florida
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I am not the one who has taken the view that ALL are sinners, nor that human righteousness in nothing but filthy rags?
Well, you asked me to explain your claim, and I did. You are welcome.
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Old 05-27-2018, 09:41 AM
 
Location: minnesota
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So, judging others reflects the mindset of Christ?

No, Jesus did not instruct His followers to judge others. Universalists make a hobby out of judging Christins, and they always try to justify it somehow.
What arguments are used to justify it?
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Old 05-27-2018, 09:45 AM
 
Location: Florida
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If someone is a hypocrite, does that mean you have judged them or they have condemned themselves by their own words?
What words?

The more often you judge others, the more you become guilty of it yourself.

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You, therefore, have no excuse, you who pass judgment on someone else, for at whatever point you judge another, you are condemning yourself, because you who pass judgment do the same things. Now we know that God’s judgment against those who do such things is based on truth. So when you, a mere human being, pass judgment on them and yet do the same things, do you think you will escape God’s judgment?
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Old 05-27-2018, 09:54 AM
 
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What arguments are used to justify it?
That Jesus called Pharisees hypocrites. And the other way to justify is the old "I'm not judging, I'm just stating a fact".

The point is that Jesus never told His followers to judge others.
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Old 05-27-2018, 10:03 AM
 
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If someone is a hypocrite, does that mean you have judged them or they have condemned themselves by their own words?
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