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Old 03-03-2020, 06:45 AM
 
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What does the Bible promise for the future?

“The righteous will possess the earth, and they will live forever on it. Psalm 37:29

“The earth remains forever.” Ecclesiastes 1:4

“He will swallow up death forever, and the Sovereign Lord Jehovah will wipe away the tears from all faces.” Isaiah 25:8

“At that time the eyes of the blind will be opened, and the ears of the deaf will be unstopped. At that time the lame will leap like the deer, and the tongue of the speechless will shout for joy. For waters will burst forth in the wilderness, and streams in the desert plain.” Isaiah 35:5, 6

“He will wipe out every tear from their eyes, and death will be no more, neither will mourning nor outcry nor pain be anymore. The former things have passed away.” Revelation 21:4

“They will build houses and live in them, and they will plant vineyards and eat their fruitage. They will not build for someone else to inhabit, nor will they plant for others to eat. For the days of my people will be like the days of a tree, and the work of their hands my chosen ones will enjoy to the full.” Isaiah 65:21, 22
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Old 03-03-2020, 11:45 AM
 
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What is the capacity of human life that the planet can hold?
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Old 03-03-2020, 11:59 AM
 
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What is the capacity of human life that the planet can hold?
A lot more than currently live on it. Have you driven through Kansas, Nebraska, or the Dakotas lately?
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Old 03-03-2020, 12:13 PM
 
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A lot more than currently live on it. Have you driven through Kansas, Nebraska, or the Dakotas lately?
How much of the land will be needed to feed the inhabitants?
And again, what is the maximum limit for humanities survival?
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Old 03-03-2020, 12:19 PM
 
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How much of the land will be needed to feed the inhabitants?
And again, what is the maximum limit for humanities survival?
I'm not a scientist. I couldn't give you an accurate guess on those.

Our cities can certainly handle more people. That's for sure. As technology improves, it's easier to build up, as well.

As for needed farmland? I do know that the average yield per acre is a lot higher now than it was 100 years ago. A lot. Due to improvements in seed, irrigation, pest control, etc, we can feed a LOT more people with a lot less land. I would assume it's going to continue to improve.
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Old 03-03-2020, 02:04 PM
 
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"They will build houses and live in them, and they will plant vineyards and eat their fruitage. They will not build for someone else to inhabit, nor will they plant for others to eat. For the days of my people will be like the days of a tree, and the work of their hands my chosen ones will enjoy to the full." Isaiah 65:21, 22
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What is the capacity of human life that the planet can hold?
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A lot more than currently live on it. Have you driven through Kansas, Nebraska, or the Dakotas lately?
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How much of the land will be needed to feed the inhabitants?
And again, what is the maximum limit for humanities survival?
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I'm not a scientist. I couldn't give you an accurate guess on those.

Our cities can certainly handle more people. That's for sure. As technology improves, it's easier to build up, as well.

As for needed farmland? I do know that the average yield per acre is a lot higher now than it was 100 years ago. A lot. Due to improvements in seed, irrigation, pest control, etc, we can feed a LOT more people with a lot less land. I would assume it's going to continue to improve.
I thought you might help the other poster out, seeing that you responded to a question which was addressed to him? Although, it appears that you merely responded for the sake of responding? So, neither one of you can actually answer the questions? How many will live in this utopia or paradise on this planet in the future? Is there a limit, if not, why not? What about the birth rate - will children be conceived? How big will the family unit be? What about the square footage of the houses that will be built? And are they going to be carpenters, as was the Christ?
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Old 03-03-2020, 04:04 PM
 
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I thought you might help the other poster out, seeing that you responded to a question which was addressed to him? Although, it appears that you merely responded for the sake of responding? So, neither one of you can actually answer the questions? How many will live in this utopia or paradise on this planet in the future? Is there a limit, if not, why not? What about the birth rate - will children be conceived? How big will the family unit be? What about the square footage of the houses that will be built? And are they going to be carpenters, as was the Christ?
Solomon speaks of the cloud that covered the Israelites in the desert and of the Manna that fell from heaven during the night. According to Solomon, the heavenly covering was a cloud by day and a host of stars by night, (a night sky ablaze with falling balls of burning hail stones). Then concerning the heavenly Manna, he says, “And that which was not injured by fire, [Burning hailstones] simply warmed by a faint sun beam melted away.

Each morning the desert floor was covered with mounds of a flaky cellulose substance which looked like coriander seed, and would melt and breed worms and stink if left out in the sun, and yet could be preserved when cooked, and tasted like biscuits mixed with the purest of olive oils.

Carbohydrates are any of a group of chemical compounds, including sugars, starches, and cellulose, containing carbon, hydrogen, and oxygen only, [of which there was an ample supply in the cloud from the volcanic explosion] with the ratio of hydrogen to oxygen atoms usually 2 : 1. Perhaps, if our scientists could simulate the same conditions that occurred in the stratosphere when the island of Thira exploded, they may come up with an inexpensive and environmentally friendly source of food production to feed the starving millions on the earth.

Concerning the war to end all wars that is to usher in the thousand years of peace, Jesus says "Pray that you flight be not in winter, (The nuclear winter) and woe to the women who are pregnant in those days. See Matthew 24: 19-21.

Zechariah 14: 13; Then the Lord will throw those nations that surround Jerusalem, into a state of total confusion, and the weapons of destruction with which they would destroy Israel, he will cause them to turn upon their own allies and they shall suffer a terrible disease, the soft tissue such as their eyes and tongues will melt in their sockets, and their radiated flesh, cooked to the bone, will slide from their bodies while still standing. Then all the surviving Nations will send their representatives each year to Jerusalem in the land of Israel, to worship and pay tribute to the Lord who will rule the whole world with justice for a thousand years, and woe betide those who refuse to do so.

I believe that there will be a scarcity of fertile women after the war to end all wars, and those few will be much sort after. It could take many, many years for the population to increase to any sizable number.
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Old 03-03-2020, 04:08 PM
 
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The war to end all wars ( Armageddon Psalm 46:9 ) will have fertile women because that war is an angelic warfare - Rev. 19:14-16.
It has nothing to do with nuclear or otherwise, but with that ' great crowd ' of people of Rev. 7:9 who survive the great tribulation of Rev. 7:14.

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Old 03-03-2020, 04:21 PM
 
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............ How many will live in this utopia or paradise on this planet in the future? Is there a limit, if not, why not? What about the birth rate - will children be conceived? How big will the family unit be? What about the square footage of the houses that will be built? And are they going to be carpenters, as was the Christ?
Yes, there is a limit as to how many will live in this utopia or paradisical Earth.
This is because God purposed that Earth be filled ( populated ) Not over filled, Not over populated.
Mankind was to reproduce on Earth only until Earth was populated or filled.- Genesis 1:28
Since the 'great crowd' of survivors are healthy and alive there is No reason they won't reproduce.- Rev. 7:19,14
Remember at the soon coming ' time of separation ' on Earth (Matthew 25:31-33,37) the figurative humble ' sheep ' are alive.
They can continue to remain alive on Earth and can be here to see calendar Day One of Jesus' coming 1,000-year governmental reign over Earth when it begins and even ends.
Since God will satisfy the desire of every living thing, then if a BIG family would satisfy then that would work.
Since each will build his own house ( see Isaiah 65:21, carpenters build, who knows could be kind of like an Amish group that helps build) then the size will suit the person or persons.
You might even have your own livestock as per Isaiah 30:23 B.
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Old 03-03-2020, 04:40 PM
 
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The war to end all wars ( Armageddon Psalm 46:9 ) will have fertile women because that war is an angelic warfare - Rev. 19:14-16.
It has nothing to do with nuclear or otherwise, but with that ' great crowd ' of people of Rev. 7:9 who survive the great tribulation of Rev. 7:14.
One of the worst tribulations that the earth has suffered in recent times occurred some 75,000 years ago with the Toba super eruption, which was a super volcanic eruption that occurred sometime between 69,000 and 77,000 years ago at Lake Toba (Sumatra Indonesia). It is recognised as one of earth’s largest eruptions.

Thousands of cubic kilometres of material would have been blasted out into the stratosphere blocking out the light all over the world, turning the sun and moon into huge blood red orbs and causing the earth’s temperature to drop some 21% and it would possibly have been a thousand years, before rainbows could form in our atmosphere again.

The related catastrophe theory holds that this event plunged the planet into a 6 to 10 year volcanic winter and possibly an additional 1,000 year cooling episode. This change in temperature resulted in the world’s proto-human population being reduced to 10,000 or even a mere 1,000 breeding pairs, creating a bottleneck in human evolution.

Could an eruption such as this, be more of a blessing, than a curse, could a protective shield around the earth to protect us from increased heavenly radiation for a period of time, be established, to give us time to prepare for the ultimate end of all physical life forms that remain on this planet, and if so how?

The huge column of molten rock that feeds Yellowstone's "super volcano" dives deeper and fills a magma chamber 20 percent bigger than previous estimates, scientists say. The finding, based on the most detailed model yet of the region's geologic plumbing, suggests that Yellowstone's magma chamber contains even more fuel for a future "super eruption" than anyone had suspected.

The model shows that a 45-mile-wide (72-kilometer-wide) plume of hot, molten rock rises to feed the super volcano from at least 410 miles (660 kilometers) beneath Earth's surface. The deepest part of the plume actually sits beneath the town of Wisdom, Montana, about 150 miles (241 kilometers) from Yellowstone National Park, a steady flow of hot rock in Earth's upper mantle causes the plume to drift to the southeast, where it fills a magma chamber that sits just 3.7 to 10 miles (5.9 to 16 kilometers) beneath Yellowstone.

Other new data show that Yellowstone's magma chamber extends 13 miles (21 kilometers) farther to the northeast than previously thought. Scientists had already known that Yellowstone is a volcanic hot spot, and that within the past two million years, the region has seen three mammoth eruptions at intervals of about 600,000 years, and it is 640,000 years since it’s last eruption. Such events it is said, can produce at least 77 cubic miles (360 cubic kilometers) of basalt: enough to bury Washington, D.C., under nearly 7,200 feet (2,200 meters) of solidified lava.

The ground beneath Yellowstone is said to be 74cm higher today than it was in 1923, which indicates a massive swelling beneath the Park. Scientists believe that the reservoir of Magma is filling at an alarming rate and as that volcano erupts with an average cycle of 600,000 years and the last eruption was more than 640,000 years ago we are overdue for annihilation.

Forget about the death total within the immediate period of the explosive eruption, but just imagine what happens to our communication and ground and air transport systems, fuel supplies, power grids, atomic power stations spewing out radiation into the atmosphere, etc, etc.

What did Jesus say concerning that day? "Pray that your flight be not in winter, (The nuclear/volcanic winter) and woe unto the women who are pregnant in those days, perhaps the evolutionary son of man, came from mutants that are to be born in those days.

Zechariah 14: 6; And it shall come to pass in that day, (The Lord’s Day of one thousand years) that the light shall not be clear or dark: and it shall be one day which shall be known to the Lord, not day, nor night: but it shall come to pass, that evening time it shall be light. On that day there will be neither sunlight nor cold, frosty darkness. On that day living water will flow out from Jerusalem, half of it east to the Dead Sea and half of it west to the Mediterranean Sea, in summer and in winter. The LORD will be king over the whole earth. On that day there will be one LORD, and his name the only name.

Could the Great prophesied war in the Middle East be the trigger to set off the volcano beneath Yellowstone, bringing in a thousand- year period of twilight in which rainbows can't form in our atmosphere? And when, according to Isaiah 65: 20, "If one were to die during that period at the age of 100, they would be but a child.
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