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Old 12-25-2020, 06:12 AM
 
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i.e. the Jehovah’s Witnesses...



Do you honestly think that Jehovah's elect worships another god than He?
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Old 12-25-2020, 05:03 PM
 
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Do you honestly think that Jehovah's elect worship another god than He?
I wouldn't consider you as one selected, nor Jehovah as being the almighty god.
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Old 12-25-2020, 06:38 PM
 
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Do you honestly think that Jehovah's elect worships another god than He?
Believe whatever you want to believe but stop playing this stupid "My Father is Better than Your Father" nonsense! There is ONLY ONE God to worship, period. The differences are not in God, they are in the fallible and flawed human BELIEFS ABOUT God. All the flawed human religions are wrong about various things, but God still IS. The absurd and preposterous idea that ANY human religion is infallibly correct in what it believes ABOUT God strains credulity beyond the pale! Stop it! You have NO bASIS for making any such absurd claims about your religion.
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Old 12-25-2020, 07:11 PM
 
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Believe whatever you want to believe but stop playing this stupid "My Father is Better than Your Father" nonsense! There is ONLY ONE God to worship, period. The differences are not in God, they are in the fallible and flawed human BELIEFS ABOUT God. All the flawed human religions are wrong about various things, but God still IS. The absurd and preposterous idea that ANY human religion is infallibly correct in what it believes ABOUT God strains credulity beyond the pale! Stop it! You have NO bASIS for making any such absurd claims about your religion.
Yep

The human religious divisions are of humanity

God becomes “man/Adam” for the sole purpose of redeeming that same “man/Adam” that fell at the start “Adam/man”

The Hebrews/Greeks/Romans/Egyptians have different names for the same concepts

In the first century they were not recording literal, historical things - they were interpreting writings that had already been put into Scripture (the Old Testament) and creating the 2nd witness (the new testament) and marrying it together into one - the Holy Scriptures

We should not be trying to tear down anyone’s faith, the New Testament relies on the Old Testament but the two, both have the same symbols, relating to the same kingdom and are both not to be treated as literal, historical, past events

They both look forward to the same fulfillment

Rev 1:1**The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:
Rev 1:2**Who bare record of the word of God, and of the testimony of Jesus Christ, and of all things that he saw.
Rev 1:3**Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand.

Joh 1:1**In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Joh 1:2**The same was in the beginning with God.
Joh 1:3**All things were made by him
; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
Joh 1:4**In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
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Old 12-26-2020, 05:33 AM
 
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I wouldn't consider you as one selected, nor Jehovah as being the almighty god.



You would be correct about me sir, but I would recommend you don't taunt Jehovah, the Almighty God according to the Bible
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Old 12-26-2020, 05:36 AM
 
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Believe whatever you want to believe but stop playing this stupid "My Father is Better than Your Father" nonsense! There is ONLY ONE God to worship, period. The differences are not in God, they are in the fallible and flawed human BELIEFS ABOUT God. All the flawed human religions are wrong about various things, but God still IS. The absurd and preposterous idea that ANY human religion is infallibly correct in what it believes ABOUT God strains credulity beyond the pale! Stop it! You have NO bASIS for making any such absurd claims about your religion.



The Bible states very clearly there are many Gods, however most are fictitious, it boils down to 2 real ones sir, Jehovah and satan. Every single individual is following one of those 2. You have to choose to stand on Jehovah's side, but if you do not do so, by default you side with satan.
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Old 12-26-2020, 08:01 AM
 
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You would be correct about me sir, but I would recommend you don't taunt Jehovah, the Almighty God according to the Bible
The Bible was written by men in their search for answers to the Universe and life itself.
It was never suppose to be about creating a religion or this "us" and "them" mentality.
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Old 12-26-2020, 12:29 PM
 
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The Bible states very clearly there are many Gods, however most are fictitious, it boils down to 2 real ones sir, Jehovah and satan. Every single individual is following one of those 2. You have to choose to stand on Jehovah's side, but if you do not do so, by default you side with satan.
Trout is correct. You are too far down the rabbit hole to be reached by any facts or common sense!

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The Bible was written by men in their search for answers to the Universe and life itself.
It was never supposed to be about creating a religion or this "us" and "them" mentality.
He will not abandon his indoctrination to the magic book "written in ink" because he does not even try to query the Holy Spirit for the Truth God has "written in our hearts," Jer.
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Old 12-26-2020, 05:52 PM
 
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The Bible states very clearly there are many Gods, however most are fictitious, it boils down to 2 real ones sir, Jehovah and satan. Every single individual is following one of those 2. You have to choose to stand on Jehovah's side, but if you do not do so, by default you side with satan.
Satan is not a god, buy yourself a clue? Adversity is a principle that results in active resistance, opposition, or contentiousness within the human nature. And the Hebrew term for Satan merely describes an adversarial role (an adversary). Whereas, an accuser (slanderer, devil) is known for his unrighteous disposition. However, the principalities and powers of unholy (human) messengers, had inculcated the doctrines of demons, devils and Satan in the early views of men; falsely fostering and prospering them. Truth becomes known, when deception falls away (that of self-induced blindness). Christ denounced these doctrines and traditions of men within the Spirit of truth, as the ego driven desires are within men, resist them.

Those who live according to the human nature have their mind set on what their nature desires, but those who live in accordance with the Spirit have their mind set on what the Spirit wants: Along came the tempter; the lust of the eyes (understanding of the mind), lust of the flesh (a heart of emotion) and the pride of life (the desires of the will). Thus, while the first Adam conceded to all that is in the world (that which extends deep down from the surface - yet, is visible through distinctive traits or characteristics common to all humanity); the second Adam stood his ground against the natural disposition of the soul, and the temperament within that of other men.

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Old 12-26-2020, 09:07 PM
 
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Satan is not a god, buy yourself a clue? Adversity is a principle that results in active resistance, opposition, or contentiousness within the human nature. And the Hebrew term for Satan merely describes an adversarial role (an adversary). Whereas, an accuser (slanderer, devil) is known for his unrighteous disposition. However, the principalities and powers of unholy (human) messengers, had inculcated the doctrines of demons, devils and Satan in the early views of men; falsely fostering and prospering them. Truth becomes known, when deception falls away (that of self-induced blindness). Christ denounced these doctrines and traditions of men within the Spirit of truth, as the ego driven desires are within men, resist them.

Those who live according to the human nature have their mind set on what their nature desires, but those who live in accordance with the Spirit have their mind set on what the Spirit wants: Along came the tempter; the lust of the eyes (understanding of the mind), lust of the flesh (a heart of emotion) and the pride of life (the desires of the will). Thus, while the first Adam conceded to all that is in the world (that which extends deep down from the surface - yet, is visible through distinctive traits or characteristics common to all humanity); the second Adam stood his ground against the natural disposition of the soul, and the temperament within that of other men.

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