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Old 02-19-2021, 05:49 PM
 
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I say they cannot be BLINDLY believed. What is "written in ink" must be TESTED against the Holy Spirit (Comforter) who is our guide to the Truth God has "written in our hearts" in agape love. They can be believed when what they say AGREES with the descriptions, revelations, and unambiguous demonstration of God's True Nature as agape love by Jesus!
And where do you find that in scripture? It just keeps going round and round, pure denial of God's Word.

I'll tell you where you can find what I've put in bold, in Mystic's mind!
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Old 02-19-2021, 06:06 PM
 
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Take it into the streets.
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Old 02-19-2021, 06:13 PM
 
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Take it into the streets.
Or you could just ignore it!
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Old 02-19-2021, 06:40 PM
 
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And where do you find that in scripture? It just keeps going round and round, pure denial of God's Word.
I'll tell you where you can find what I've put in bold, in Mystic's mind!
You can only deny God's Word who is Jesus if you do not know and use the "mind of Christ." This thread is asking why Jesus did something. You cannot answer that not knowing what Jesus is like. You are using a book of 66 different authors (or more) AS IF they are ALL God's Word when we are told that Jesus is God's Word, NOT some compilation of books! The books tell us about Jesus but only understanding the "mind of Christ" enables us to know the "mind of God." That is why and how Jesus is God's Word. You basically ignore Him and call yourself a Christian because you believe 66 books about Him as if they were God's word instead of Him.
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Old 02-20-2021, 04:14 AM
 
Location: West Virginia
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You 2 are counter-balances of each other

Charlie says the Scriptures are literal

Mystic says they are spiritual

But there is another way to look at the them - filled with symbolism from start to finish and the focus described by Paul is to gather together in peace to understand what the symbols mean in context

So food is not literal food, wives are not literal wives, water is not literal water, etc, etc those things are to be interpreted/translated

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That is the primary issue that divides so many of you here. Some see the writing as spiritual, symbolic, and allegorical. Others think every word is literally true, factual and inerrant. The latter refer to the former as unbelievers, and to themselves as Bible believers. My observation is that the literal believers are unwilling to even admit that there are other ways to interpret the Bible. Whenever I mention it, they ignore my post. No mutual understanding will exist until people recognize this diversity as legitimate differences in interpretation.
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Old 02-20-2021, 05:56 AM
 
Location: Illinois
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Id like to know how 'unbelievers' can drive out demons in the name of God?


Can anyone give an example of this happening just one time?


It doesnt make sense, why would the demons obey and comply, with a human who does not even believe?

Simple, to gain more converts. Healing is a very powerful tool RS
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Old 02-20-2021, 08:58 AM
 
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That is the primary issue that divides so many of you here. Some see the writing as spiritual, symbolic, and allegorical. Others think every word is literally true, factual and inerrant. The latter refer to the former as unbelievers, and to themselves as Bible believers. My observation is that the literal believers are unwilling to even admit that there are other ways to interpret the Bible. Whenever I mention it, they ignore my post. No mutual understanding will exist until people recognize this diversity as legitimate differences in interpretation.
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Old 02-20-2021, 11:19 AM
 
Location: New Zealand
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That is the primary issue that divides so many of you here. Some see the writing as spiritual, symbolic, and allegorical. Others think every word is literally true, factual and inerrant. The latter refer to the former as unbelievers, and to themselves as Bible believers. My observation is that the literal believers are unwilling to even admit that there are other ways to interpret the Bible. Whenever I mention it, they ignore my post. No mutual understanding will exist until people recognize this diversity as legitimate differences in interpretation.
Yep

Right/wrong, black/white, us/them, offensive/defensive mentality
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