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Old 07-12-2021, 04:01 PM
 
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Corinthians
But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.

Revelation


These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb.

Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.


The ONLY people who are raised with Christ ARE RABBIS.

PRIESTS.
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Old 07-12-2021, 07:11 PM
 
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Corinthians
But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.

Revelation


These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb.

Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.


The ONLY people who are raised with Christ ARE RABBIS.

PRIESTS.
Hogwash;

Unless you take into account the fact that every believer in Christ is considered by the Lord to be a priest unto Him.

1Pe 2:5, Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ.

1Pe 2:9, But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:
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Old 07-12-2021, 08:39 PM
 
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Hogwash;

Unless you take into account the fact that every believer in Christ is considered by the Lord to be a priest unto Him.

1Pe 2:5, Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ.

1Pe 2:9, But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:
That is speaking to Israel man, the peculiar people who are peculiar to God in keeping his ways, they were in darkness 700 years and they are a royal nation called into the light.

God didnt turn a priesthood to a Gentile nation, he turned it from Judah to Israel, not to Gentiles. There are Gentiles within Israel, but they became Israel and are no longer Gentile.
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Old 07-12-2021, 09:39 PM
 
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Christian's not knowing the difference in Israel and Judah is a serious problem because if you dont know who these two people are, you couldnt possibly understand the New Testament.

The New Testament is about a New covenant that would finally make the first born son as one with the second born son.

Israel was Judah's greatest enemy for the 300 years of their reign.

Israel kept allying with Egypt and Assyriah to defeat Judah and the whole goal of Israel was to become Gentiles because they called the Torah a strange thing and they created their own holy city in their separation against the Jews of Judah.


Instead of Jerusalem, it was Shechem, and instead of the temple of God, they built their own temple in opposition to God and the ways of Jerusalem.


One day, God looked at them and said, " Ye shall not recieve mercy, you are not my people, and I will not he your God."


The lost sheep of the house of Israel has nothing to do with Jews.

Jesus said he only came for the lost sheep of the house of Israel(Not Jews) literally telling us that he was not there for Jews, the Jews still walked with God, but Israel sat in darkness for 700 years and Jesus had to find them before he could perform a marriage between Israel and Judah.

The New Covenant is solely to make Israel one people with Judah.




Israelis Were Never Jews, Israelies celabrated Easter and Christmas while the Jews of Judah kept Passover and Sukkot.





Why did Israel change it holy days?

Jeroboam's Idolatry

1 Kings

25Then Jeroboam built Shechem in mount Ephraim, and dwelt therein; and went out from thence, and built Penuel. 26And Jeroboam said in his heart, Now shall the kingdom return to the house of David: If this people go up to do sacrifice in the house of the LORD at Jerusalem, then shall the heart of this people turn again unto their lord, even unto Rehoboam king of Judah, and they shall kill me, and go again to Rehoboam king of Judah. 28Whereupon the king took counsel, and made two calves of gold, and said unto them, It is too much for you to go up to Jerusalem: behold thy gods, O Israel, which brought thee up out of the land of Egypt.




Christian's do the same thing in their desire to separate from Jews, the same feasts, and the same lawless, all created out of racism against the Jew.



Separation.


The whole point of Jesus is to make Israel the same people as Jews, and anyone claiming to be in the new covenant is claimig to be an Israeli or a Jew, and both these love each other in a marriage that you cant tell the difference. The Jews of Hudah are in the New Covenant, and with them are Israelis, BUT THEY ARE ALSO JEWS.

The whole point of the covenant is to join two peoples together in a literal marriage where Judah is the bridegroom, and Israel is the bride, and this is why Gentiles claim to be the bride of a Jew, Jesus didnt come offering the Jew to marry a Jew so that Jews could become Jews, he came offering a redeeming marriage into Israel.

Jesus had come as the messenger of the covenant, he came to officiate a marriage just as Moses had done.

That marriage is Israel to Judah.



He came to take two people to make them one people

That was 2000 years ago, now there is only seperation, the whole point of the covenant lost.

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Old 07-12-2021, 09:49 PM
 
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Jer 3:8, And I saw, when for all the causes whereby backsliding Israel committed adultery I had put her away, and given her a bill of divorce; yet her treacherous sister Judah feared not, but went and played the harlot also.
Jer 3:9, And it came to pass through the lightness of her whoredom, that she defiled the land, and committed adultery with stones and with stocks.
Jer 3:10, And yet for all this her treacherous sister Judah hath not turned unto me with her whole heart, but feignedly, saith the LORD.
Jer 3:11, And the LORD said unto me, The backsliding Israel hath justified herself more than treacherous Judah.
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Old 07-13-2021, 11:17 AM
 
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Jer 3:8, And I saw, when for all the causes whereby backsliding Israel committed adultery I had put her away, and given her a bill of divorce; yet her treacherous sister Judah feared not, but went and played the harlot also.
Jer 3:9, And it came to pass through the lightness of her whoredom, that she defiled the land, and committed adultery with stones and with stocks.
Jer 3:10, And yet for all this her treacherous sister Judah hath not turned unto me with her whole heart, but feignedly, saith the LORD.
Jer 3:11, And the LORD said unto me, The backsliding Israel hath justified herself more than treacherous Judah.
And?

That was 600 years before Christ, why are you stopping there?


Israel adopted Easter and Christmas and God ended their kingdom for it, and their paganism also led Judah to fall in sin


You are sure smart enough to read Jeremiah, but why dont you read what happened to Judah after that?

God ended Israel but he took Judah into Babylon where they stopped involving themselves in paganism



What gets me is your willingness and sheer Gaul to put up Judah's sin that they stopped, but you began.


How are you going to point your finger at anyone?


You should learn the history, you cant just list sin 600 years before Christ and stop there as if they remained in paganism when they did not.

Is that ignorance or dishonesty?


The Jews are the only people who flow the religion of Messiah.
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Old 07-13-2021, 11:40 AM
 
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The word of God is eternal; and it says that backsliding Israel hath justified herself more than treacherous Judah.
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Old 07-13-2021, 01:05 PM
 
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The word of God is eternal; and it says that backsliding Israel hath justified herself more than treacherous Judah.
So its dishonesty?

You quote a scripture 600 years before Jesus, and the sin you are pointing out is their involvement in the same paganism Christian's practiced.

You quote Judah's sin 600 years before Jesus as if that was the end of their history.

Again, Jeremiah said what he said, and then God took Jews into Babylon where they no longer involved themselves in Christmas or Easter.

Should God have punished them and even wiped them out for practicing Easter and Christmas?

Of course he should but he didnt wipe them out, he punished them and they were refined as gold refined in fire.

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Old 07-13-2021, 01:46 PM
 
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So its dishonesty?

You quote a scripture 600 years before Jesus, and the sin you are pointing out is their involvement in the same paganism Christian's practiced.

You quote Judah's sin 600 years before Jesus as if that was the end of their history.

Again, Jeremiah said what he said, and then God took Jews into Babylon where they no longer involved themselves in Christmas or Easter.

Should God have punished them and even wiped them out for practicing Easter and Christmas?

Of course he should but he didnt wipe them out, he punished them and they were refined as gold refined in fire.
There was no Christianity in the days of Babylon; so the Israelites could not have been practicing Christmas and Easter as Christian holidays in that time.
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