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Old 08-18-2021, 12:06 AM
 
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You cannot reason with an unreasonable person like JBF.
His own ignorance prevents him from seeing the truth.
He has made that abundantly clear, Jer.
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Old 08-18-2021, 11:45 AM
 
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It is a simple metaphor about human motivation. If you have bad motives you can not produce good results. If you have good motives you can not produce bad results.
No, it means that you will bear good or bad fruit according to what kind of tree you are.
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Old 08-18-2021, 11:48 AM
 
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No, it means that you will bear good or bad fruit according to what kind of tree you are.
That depends on which you feed the most, as we are not all good or bad.
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Old 08-18-2021, 11:48 AM
 
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You cannot reason with an unreasonable person like JBF.
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He has made that abundantly clear, Jer.
You both have three fingers pointing back at you, impaho.

If it is unreasonable to believe that the Bible is the word of God, then I accept the label; for my salvation is partially wrapped up in my acceptance of the Bible as the word of God.

So, I would say that the ignorance of both of you prevents you from seeing the truth (of holy scripture).

Because you ignore what the scriptures teach, therefore you cannot know the truth that will make you free if you would only believe in it.
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Old 08-18-2021, 11:51 AM
 
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You both have three fingers pointing back at you, impaho.

If it is unreasonable to believe that the Bible is the word of God, then I accept the label; for my salvation is partially wrapped up in my acceptance of the Bible as the word of God.

So, I would say that the ignorance of both of you prevents you from seeing the truth (of holy scripture).

Because you ignore what the scriptures teach, therefore you cannot know the truth that will make you free if you would only believe in it.
Amen!
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Old 08-18-2021, 11:52 AM
 
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You both have three fingers pointing back at you, impaho.

If it is unreasonable to believe that the Bible is the word of God, then I accept the label; for my salvation is partially wrapped up in my acceptance of the Bible as the word of God.

So, I would say that the ignorance of both of you prevents you from seeing the truth (of holy scripture).

Because you ignore what the scriptures teach, therefore you cannot know the truth that will make you free if you would only believe in it.
I am not interested in that garbage wagon of damnation, neither is it Scriptural.
Your pretense that you understand things more than others is absurd/asinine.
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Old 08-18-2021, 11:54 AM
 
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Amen!
I see you have that cheerleader outfit on today!
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Old 08-18-2021, 12:26 PM
 
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I am not interested in that garbage wagon of damnation, neither is it Scriptural.
Your pretense that you understand things more than others is absurd/asinine.
It is very scriptural.

And I do not presume to think that I have a better understanding than others.

But if their understanding is in contradiction to what I definitely understand and know, then I will proclaim my understanding in contradiction to theirs; and if I know that my understanding is true in contradiction to theirs, then I will say that my understanding is the truth and that theirs is also a lie.
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Old 08-18-2021, 12:32 PM
 
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You both have three fingers pointing back at you, impaho.
If it is unreasonable to believe that the Bible is the word of God, then I accept the label; for my salvation is partially wrapped up in my acceptance of the Bible as the word of God.
It IS unreasonable to believe it unerringly reflects the Holy Spirit of the word of God without testing it against what we are told and have as our standard of TRUTH and infallible example of God's Holy Spirit of agape love, Jesus Christ. Your ignorant refusal to subject what MEN have told you is the accurate word of God against the INFALLIBLE Word of God Jesus Christ is completely unreasonable!!!

There should be no problem with any such test if what you have been told about the writings is true. You know in your heart and in your extensive knowledge of the scriptures that there would be a problem with any such test that is why you refuse to do it. You want to keep your wrathful and vengeful God who needed to be appeased by blood sacrifices so you can keep intact your corrupt Bad News Gospel derived from it.
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Old 08-18-2021, 12:44 PM
 
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Those who penned the New Testament were tested by the early church and found to be true apostles (Revelation 2:2).

Therefore there is no reason to pick apart their words to see what in them is true and what in them isn't true.

If they are good trees, they cannot bear bad fruit (Matthew 7:15-20).
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