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Of course He did. God IS Spirit so His "mind" is Spirit. That is what Jesus brought to His HUMAN consciousness to save all human consciousness from permanent separation from God.
Yes God is spirit. Jesus defined that spirit as words. God is His word.
“The words I spoke to you are spirit and life.” (Jesus)
And scripture has it;
“My words are life to those who find them, to mans whole being they are health.”(Proverbs)
The Father knows the mind of the Spirit according to Romans 8:27. Two distinct minds are inferred here. The passage is not saying that the Father knows his own mind. And since the Holy Spirit is also distinct from Jesus, there are three 'persons' in the godhead.
Only human ignorance of consciousness as the base of personhood would make that erroneous inference, Michael. You have been led astray by created jargon that has no relationship to reality.
Only human ignorance of consciousness as the base of personhood would make that erroneous inference, Michael. You have been led astray by created jargon that has no relationship to reality.
Sorry/not sorry, but not so. The early church spent a great deal of time, hundreds of years trying to understand the relationship between the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. With good intentions various views such as Tri-theism and Modalism were developed. But Trinitarianism best fits what the Bible says about that relationship. Make no mistake about it, but Trinitarianism came about not in spite of what the Bible says, but because of what it says. The Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are each called God, yet God is said to be one, not three. That rules out tri-theism. Since the Father and Jesus are present at the same time that rules out Modalism which is the view that God plays different roles at different times. Sometimes he's the Father, at other times he's the Son. Jesus prayed to the Father so Modalism can not be correct. The best view based on what the Bible says is that God is one in essence but three in persons.
"Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.
And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment:"
There are more, would have to look them up though.
The power of ignorance in the carnal mind about what actually constitutes personhood and its relationship to Spirit (consciousness) is difficult to overcome, Richard. To the natural man, things of the Spirit must be spiritually discerned and they are not able to do so.
I don’t think it has anything to do with the spirit, I think that it has to do with reading comprehension...
Just use the scriptures anyway. They will not return void (Isaiah 55:10-11).
If I have a sharp sword in my hand (Hebrews 4:12, Ephesians 6:17), I do not have to argue with anyone about whether the sword is sharp or not.
I can prove it to them by sticking them with the sword.
If a person does not accept scripture as being the final authority, I am unable to help them Faith. To them anything they say is from God, and anything I say is simply my opinion even when using supporting scriptures. There is an element of freedom from not accepting the Bible as God's word, freedom to be your own god like Adam and Eve, however I don't think they will be happy with the selection in the end.
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The power of ignorance in the carnal mind about what actually constitutes personhood and its relationship to Spirit (consciousness) is difficult to overcome, Richard. To the natural man, things of the Spirit must be spiritually discerned and they are not able to do so.
