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How does that differ from the "mind of Christ" that reveals to us the "mind of God" and abides with us as the Comforter within our minds (consciousness)? What differentiated Jesus from God was His human body, but His consciousness developed as the "mind of God." When His body died, His human consciousness ("mind of God") was born again as Spirit (the Holy Spirit) to permanently abide within ALL human consciousness as the Comforter ("mind of God").
Jesus spoke of the Holy Spirit as being distinct from himself.
How does he split into hundreds of pieces at once if he is a being?
Not a physical being .....but still a being
It relates to the light, breath, spirit that all living entities have - and man has added intelligence to be able to imagine, inquire, reason, communicate, plan, and build upon previous endeavours etc which is what is involved in the Scriptures
Joh 1:1**In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Joh 1:2**The same was in the beginning with God.
Joh 1:3**All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
Joh 1:4**In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
Joh 1:5**And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.
Joh 1:6**There was a man sent from God, whose name was John.
Joh 1:7**The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe.
Joh 1:8**He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light.
Joh 1:9**That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.
G3056***(Strong)
λόγος
logos
log'-os
From G3004; something said (including the thought); by implication a topic (subject of discourse), also reasoning (the mental faculty) or motive; by extension a computation; specifically (with the article in John) the Divine Expression (that is, Christ): - account, cause, communication, X concerning, doctrine, fame, X have to do, intent, matter, mouth, preaching, question, reason, + reckon, remove, say (-ing), shew, X speaker, speech, talk, thing, + none of these things move me, tidings, treatise, utterance, word, work.
Gen 1:1**In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
Gen 1:2**And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
Gen 1:3**And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
Gen 1:4**And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.
Gen 1:5**And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.
There is an over laying/overshadowing that happens and “we” corporately are not to confuse/merge unlike things together
This is what the Church Fathers were dogmatic about and why they developed systems to prevent total confusion reigning with nothing left
The orthodox and heretic were separated and the seeds of both systems recorded for the following “generations” “us” to use/process/compare
Good heavens, man! It's not talking about a literal sword with which to stick people. Neither is it about quoting a passage or verse, believing you are correcting someone. Obviously, you haven't much of a clue. He is the one who discerns the thoughts and intents of the heart, not you from reading a few words on a piece of paper. You have no spiritual discernment, whatsoever.
May the Lord abundantly bless you and receive you as a son.
But yes, the Bible likens the Bible to a sword; and while it is not an actual sword made of metal, it has the effect of a sword in that it pierces even to the dividing asunder of the soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow.
The word of God is also called "the sword of the Spirit" in Ephesians 6:17.
In Hebrews 4:12, it is said to be sharper than any two-edged sword; and I liken it to being more like a scalpel since it is usable to cut away the cancer of sin in people's lives.
Because the word will only do good to those who walk uprightly (Micah 2:7).
But to those who are wicked, it may even cause them to go over the edge so that they might be disciplined by the Lord through their trip with satan.
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Because leaving His human body it was now in Spirit form as our human consciousness will be upon our death and rebirth as Spirit.
I don't think you understood me. Jesus, while still in his mortal body spoke of the Holy Spirit as being distinct from himself. As well, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are spoken of together in language which shows distinction among them. The baptismal formula for instance in Matthew 28:19, or 2 Corinthians 13:14. Furthermore, the Holy Spirit is spoken of in the Old Testament long before Jesus incarnated.
I don't think you understood me. Jesus, while still in his mortal body spoke of the Holy Spirit as being distinct from himself. As well, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are spoken of together in language which shows distinction among them. The baptismal formula for instance in Matthew 28:19, or 2 Corinthians 13:14. Furthermore, the Holy Spirit is spoken of in the Old Testament long before Jesus incarnated.
The Holy Ghost is distinct from the Son in that He is a Spirit without flesh; and the Son is come in the flesh.
But He is the Spirit of Jesus (Romans 8:9); who was released to the Father (who inhabiteth eternity, Isaiah 57:15) with the title of Holy Ghost..
And the Spirit of Jesus is the Father (John 4:23-24, John 14:7-11).
I don't think you understood me. Jesus, while still in his mortal body spoke of the Holy Spirit as being distinct from himself. As well, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are spoken of together in language which shows distinction among them. The baptismal formula for instance in Matthew 28:19, or 2 Corinthians 13:14. Furthermore, the Holy Spirit is spoken of in the Old Testament long before Jesus incarnated.
Of course He did. God IS Spirit so His "mind" is Spirit. That is what Jesus brought to His HUMAN consciousness to save all human consciousness from permanent separation from God.
Jhn 21:18, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, When thou wast young, thou girdedst thyself, and walkedst whither thou wouldest: but when thou shalt be old, thou shalt stretch forth thy hands, and another shall gird thee, and carry thee whither thou wouldest not.
Jhn 21:19, This spake he, signifying by what death he should glorify God. And when he had spoken this, he saith unto him, Follow me.
The verse in bold is someone’s own take on it. Jesus kept telling Peter to follow Him. Why? Because he wouldn’t. And didn’t.
None of the disciples succeeded.
As it is written;
“No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him.” (Jesus)
Of course He did. God IS Spirit so His "mind" is Spirit. That is what Jesus brought to His HUMAN consciousness to save all human consciousness from permanent separation from God.
The Father knows the mind of the Spirit according to Romans 8:27. Two distinct minds are inferred here. The passage is not saying that the Father knows his own mind. And since the Holy Spirit is also distinct from Jesus, there are three 'persons' in the godhead.
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