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Old 08-19-2021, 04:42 PM
 
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No mortal can prove its being mispronounced. John 17:26-- A promise Jesus makes to keep on making his Father's name known. And he has.
Nonsense. He used and recommended Abba.
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Old 08-19-2021, 04:54 PM
 
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Well, not sure about Jehova, but IF the Ultimate reality, the Essence of All Being is defined as being God, then Long before the Jewish Scribes transcribed the mythology of Yahweh, this symbol represented the name/essence of the Universal deity



In chanting, we often use the sound....AUM or OM ...sound represented by the symbol
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Old 08-19-2021, 05:09 PM
 
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The bible doesn't teach that.
Yes it does. Since God is omnipresent and the Holy Spirit is God, the Holy Spirit is therefore omnipresent. Simple.
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Old 08-20-2021, 06:04 AM
 
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Crazy that a guy that seems so concerned about God's name is ok with knowingly mispronouncing it.

I don't think Jehovah cares as much as the sincerity of it's usage. I kinda get urked when someone mispronounces it though, we have a brother from the east coast, even one of the governaing body as well pronounces it Jehover, some brothers from the south call Him Gee hovah, I pronounce it Juh hoe vuh. So yes I am concerned with the way it is pronounced. It urks me when people asks me ain't you one of those Jehovahs
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Old 08-20-2021, 06:06 AM
 
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Well, not sure about Jehova, but IF the Ultimate reality, the Essence of All Being is defined as being God, then Long before the Jewish Scribes transcribed the mythology of Yahweh, this symbol represented the name/essence of the Universal deity



In chanting, we often use the sound....AUM or OM ...sound represented by the symbol

Thanks for your input Cat, best to stick to the name found in the Bible.
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Old 08-20-2021, 06:50 AM
 
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As God the Holy Spirit is omnipresent - everywhere present. No splitting into hundreds of pieces at once is involved.
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The bible doesn't teach that.
See Psalms 139:7-8.
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Old 08-20-2021, 01:38 PM
 
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I don't think Jehovah cares as much as the sincerity of it's usage. I kinda get urked when someone mispronounces it though, we have a brother from the east coast, even one of the governaing body as well pronounces it Jehover, some brothers from the south call Him Gee hovah, I pronounce it Juh hoe vuh. So yes I am concerned with the way it is pronounced. It urks me when people asks me ain't you one of those Jehovahs
We had a kingdom's hall down the block from us when I was a teenager. One night the place was totally packed, we( 5-6 of us) slooooowly opened the entrance door, stuck our heads into the hall and doing this totally unnoticed, shouted at the top of our lungs...'HEY JEHOVAH!!!".. The place emptied and the chase that followed was pretty scary to say the least. Had they caught us, who knows what would have happened, might be knocking on doors myself. Anyhoo, h54 when you get up there tell the Big J we were just goofin' around and if He really prefers getting called Jehovah, I won't be laughing either
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Old 08-20-2021, 03:37 PM
 
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See Psalms 139:7-8.

It isnt saying what you think it says. Jesus brought truth. John 17:3-- Clearly teaches-The one who sent him is THE ONLY TRUE GOD. The bible teaches John 5:30- The Father sent Jesus. The one whom Jesus teaches is his God-John 20:17, Rev 3:12--Jesus isnt making the error in ones thinking. Mortals are. Paul knew as well-1Corinthians 8:6--There is ONE God to all, the Father. Certain religions claiming to serve Jesus Are not teaching these bible truths. Because Jesus real truth exposes them.
So then, Jesus teaches -the Father is the only true God as well as Paul. And the other bible writers as well. Jesus truth, Pauls truth coincide with the Facts of history of true God worship.
From Moses on up until this very day, The Israelite religion, teach, serve and worship a single being God. The same God taught to Jesus when he attended the places of worship, as to every bible writer as well.
Someone is getting mislead very badly.
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Old 08-21-2021, 04:38 AM
 
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It isnt saying what you think it says. Jesus brought truth. John 17:3-- Clearly teaches-The one who sent him is THE ONLY TRUE GOD. The bible teaches John 5:30- The Father sent Jesus. The one whom Jesus teaches is his God-John 20:17, Rev 3:12--Jesus isnt making the error in ones thinking. Mortals are. Paul knew as well-1Corinthians 8:6--There is ONE God to all, the Father. Certain religions claiming to serve Jesus Are not teaching these bible truths. Because Jesus real truth exposes them.
So then, Jesus teaches -the Father is the only true God as well as Paul. And the other bible writers as well. Jesus truth, Pauls truth coincide with the Facts of history of true God worship.
From Moses on up until this very day, The Israelite religion, teach, serve and worship a single being God. The same God taught to Jesus when he attended the places of worship, as to every bible writer as well.
Someone is getting mislead very badly.
You don't think that those verses (Psalms 138:7-8) are saying that the Holy Spirit is Omnipresent?

What are those verses saying if not that?
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Old 08-21-2021, 04:43 AM
 
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It isnt saying what you think it says. Jesus brought truth. John 17:3-- Clearly teaches-The one who sent him is THE ONLY TRUE GOD. The bible teaches John 5:30- The Father sent Jesus. The one whom Jesus teaches is his God-John 20:17, Rev 3:12--Jesus isnt making the error in ones thinking. Mortals are. Paul knew as well-1Corinthians 8:6--There is ONE God to all, the Father. Certain religions claiming to serve Jesus Are not teaching these bible truths. Because Jesus real truth exposes them.
So then, Jesus teaches -the Father is the only true God as well as Paul. And the other bible writers as well. Jesus truth, Pauls truth coincide with the Facts of history of true God worship.
From Moses on up until this very day, The Israelite religion, teach, serve and worship a single being God. The same God taught to Jesus when he attended the places of worship, as to every bible writer as well.
Someone is getting mislead very badly.
In 1 Corinthians 8:6, it also says that there is one Lord Jesus Christ.

So does this preclude that the Father is not the one Lord also?

See Matthew 11:25, Luke 10:21.

If the Father can be the one Lord, when 1 Corinthians 8:6 seems to exclude Him from that, then Jesus can be the one true God, though 1 Corinthians 8:6 seems to exclude Him from that.

Also, in John 17:3, the Greek word for "and" is "kai" which can be translated "even".

So keep that in mind the next time you read that verse (John 17:3).
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