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Old 08-15-2021, 06:58 AM
 
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What is the name of the Father even of the Son even of the Holy Ghost (Matthew 28:19)?

Was Peter obedient or disobedient when he did what he did in Acts 2:38-39?

The Bible reveals the Fathers name is Jehovah, as well as Jesus as being the name of His son. The holy ghost is not named in the Bible, as it is not a being.


Of course Peter was a sinner, and like all of us disobedient at times, however as you can clearly see, not only accepted the assignment given, but your example shows he was carrying it out. Yes sir, he was definitely obedient in those passages.
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Old 08-15-2021, 07:01 AM
 
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“Then all those who call on the name of Yahweh shall be saved.”

“All those who enter by me will be saved.” (Jesus)

Go figure?



Not a contradiction sir. Jesus taught us to pray to Yahweh, through him. Remember it was Yahweh, who sent Yeshua as our mediator. (1 Timothy 2:5, 6) . . .For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, a man, Christ Jesus, 6 who gave himself a corresponding ransom for all. . .
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Old 08-15-2021, 07:05 AM
 
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Yahweh IS an English translation, or rather, articulation of the Hebrew Tetragrammaton YHWH. And as already shown in post #3, ''The vast majority of Jewish and Christian biblical scholars and linguists do not believe “Jehovah” to be the proper pronunciation of YHWH''.

Yahweh is Hebrew as I stated, using English letters Jehovah is the way it is translated into English, and all English versions that put the name into English render it Jehovah. That is the simple documented truth.
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Old 08-15-2021, 07:49 AM
 
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The Bible reveals the Fathers name is Jehovah,
What verse? Can you give me a single verse with it?
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as well as Jesus as being the name of His son.
* Son.

He's the 2nd Person of the Trinity, God the Son.
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The holy ghost is not named in the Bible, as it is not a being.
The Holy Spirit is mentioned. He has a will, can speak, and can be lied to, as we see in Acts 5. And, as Peter says, He's God.
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Old 08-15-2021, 09:38 AM
 
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The Holy Spirit is mentioned. He has a will, can speak, and can be lied to, as we see in Acts 5. And, as Peter says, He's God.
The Holy Spirit is God's consciousness (mind) which is what Jesus brought to His human consciousness (mind). Our ancestors had no way to comprehend this actual source of "personhood," so they concocted the three "persons" in one Trinity complete with created jargon to explain it.
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Old 08-15-2021, 10:50 AM
 
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Yahweh is Hebrew as I stated, using English letters Jehovah is the way it is translated into English, and all English versions that put the name into English render it Jehovah. That is the simple documented truth.
Actually not. Both Yahweh and Jehovah are transliterations, not translations of the Tetragrammaton YHWH. The distinction is important to understand.
Transliteration is the process of transferring a word from the alphabet of one language to another. Transliteration helps people pronounce words and names in foreign languages. Unlike a translation, which tells you the meaning of a word that's written in another language, a transliteration only gives you an idea of how the word is pronounced, by putting it in a familiar alphabet.

https://www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/transliteration
An example of transliteration vs translation is the Greek word ἐκκλησία. A translation of ἐκκλησία is the English word 'church.' But a transliteration of ἐκκλησία is ekklésia.

Both Yahweh and Jehovah are transliterations of the Hebrew Tetragrammaton YHWH. But again,
The vast majority of Jewish and Christian biblical scholars and linguists do not believe “Jehovah” to be the proper pronunciation of YHWH. There was no true J sound in ancient Hebrew. Even the Hebrew letter vav, which is transliterated as the W in YHWH is said to have originally had a pronunciation closer to W than the V of Jehovah. Jehovah is essentially a Germanic pronunciation of the Latinized transliteration of the Hebrew YHWH. It is the letters of the tetragrammaton, Latinized into JHVH, with vowels inserted. “Yahweh” or “Yehowah” is far more likely to be the correct pronunciation.

https://www.gotquestions.org/Jehovah.html
'Jehovah' is said by the majority of biblical scholars and linguists to be an improper transliteration of YHWH. And that is the simple documented truth.
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Old 08-15-2021, 12:24 PM
 
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interestingly Charlie, His one name is so important it occurs more than any other name in the Bible. It is so important for us personally, as without calling upon it there is no salvation. satan is very good at trying to hide Jehovah's name, but he is only successful in individuals hearts, as He has seen to it that His name has been declared in all the earth Ex 9:16
There is no salvation under heaven given among men than by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth (Acts 4:10-12).

Do you conclude, as I do, that the name of Jehovah is in fact Jesus Christ of Nazareth?

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The Bible reveals the Fathers name is Jehovah, as well as Jesus as being the name of His son. The holy ghost is not named in the Bible, as it is not a being.


Of course Peter was a sinner, and like all of us disobedient at times, however as you can clearly see, not only accepted the assignment given, but your example shows he was carrying it out. Yes sir, he was definitely obedient in those passages.
Since Peter was obedient in Acts 2:38, we can conclude that he was in fact baptizing them in the "name" (singular) of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost, when He baptized them in the "name" of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins.
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Old 08-15-2021, 12:33 PM
 
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Not a contradiction sir. Jesus taught us to pray to Yahweh, through him. Remember it was Yahweh, who sent Yeshua as our mediator. (1 Timothy 2:5, 6) . . .For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, a man, Christ Jesus, 6 who gave himself a corresponding ransom for all. . .
No. Timothy’s words can’t undo what Jesus said. His words are not inspired.

I’m not saying Jesus contradicted. He was showing a way to know the name of God and call upon that name. He is not a mediator. He and all the prophets, the son of man, have always called on the name of the LORD. They have shown how to revere the LORD and call upon His name.
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Old 08-15-2021, 12:48 PM
 
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No. Timothy’s words can’t undo what Jesus said. His words are not inspired.

I’m not saying Jesus contradicted. He was showing a way to know the name of God and call upon that name. He is not a mediator. He and all the prophets, the son of man, have always called on the name of the LORD. They have shown how to revere the LORD and call upon His name.
Until you tell us how you know what is inspired and what is not, no one will listen to your rantings.
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Old 08-15-2021, 12:52 PM
 
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No. Timothy’s words can’t undo what Jesus said. His words are not inspired.

I’m not saying Jesus contradicted. He was showing a way to know the name of God and call upon that name. He is not a mediator. He and all the prophets, the son of man, have always called on the name of the LORD. They have shown how to revere the LORD and call upon His name.
Paul's words to Timothy are in fact inspired.

For Jesus substantiated Peter's writings in John 14:26, 16:13.

Peter substantiated Paul's writings in 2 Peter 3:15-16.

And Paul substantiated the rest of the Bible in 2 Timothy 3:15-17.
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