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Old 08-16-2021, 05:50 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Michael Way View Post
Actually not. Both Yahweh and Jehovah are transliterations, not translations of the Tetragrammaton YHWH. The distinction is important to understand.
Transliteration is the process of transferring a word from the alphabet of one language to another. Transliteration helps people pronounce words and names in foreign languages. Unlike a translation, which tells you the meaning of a word that's written in another language, a transliteration only gives you an idea of how the word is pronounced, by putting it in a familiar alphabet.

https://www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/transliteration
An example of transliteration vs translation is the Greek word ἐκκλησία. A translation of ἐκκλησία is the English word 'church.' But a transliteration of ἐκκλησία is ekklésia.

Both Yahweh and Jehovah are transliterations of the Hebrew Tetragrammaton YHWH. But again,
The vast majority of Jewish and Christian biblical scholars and linguists do not believe “Jehovah” to be the proper pronunciation of YHWH. There was no true J sound in ancient Hebrew. Even the Hebrew letter vav, which is transliterated as the W in YHWH is said to have originally had a pronunciation closer to W than the V of Jehovah. Jehovah is essentially a Germanic pronunciation of the Latinized transliteration of the Hebrew YHWH. It is the letters of the tetragrammaton, Latinized into JHVH, with vowels inserted. “Yahweh” or “Yehowah” is far more likely to be the correct pronunciation.

https://www.gotquestions.org/Jehovah.html
'Jehovah' is said by the majority of biblical scholars and linguists to be an improper transliteration of YHWH. And that is the simple documented truth.

It doesn't matter sir, YHWH is God's name, so feel free to use that. Since the rest of your comment is in English, and this is an English speaking site, I simply put the name into English. YHWH is His name in Hebrew as we have agreed, so no doubt He accepts that from persons who approach Him in good faith.
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Old 08-16-2021, 05:52 AM
 
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There is no salvation under heaven given among men than by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth (Acts 4:10-12).

Do you conclude, as I do, that the name of Jehovah is in fact Jesus Christ of Nazareth?



Since Peter was obedient in Acts 2:38, we can conclude that he was in fact baptizing them in the "name" (singular) of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost, when He baptized them in the "name" of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins.



No sir I don't conclude that, why would I. Jesus' God is Jehovah like he personally stated, as well as the Father of Jesus.


Best to know what it means to be baptized in the name of
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Old 08-16-2021, 05:54 AM
 
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No. Timothy’s words can’t undo what Jesus said. His words are not inspired.

I’m not saying Jesus contradicted. He was showing a way to know the name of God and call upon that name. He is not a mediator. He and all the prophets, the son of man, have always called on the name of the LORD. They have shown how to revere the LORD and call upon His name.



Sorry sir, I am not skilled enough to reason with one that does not accept Scripture as fact.
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Old 08-16-2021, 06:04 AM
 
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The holy spirit is not a being sir. Jesus told his apostles that he would send a helper, perhaps you agree that he was talking about the holy spirit, that was fulfilled on the following Pentecost, a person did not come rather God's holy spirit was poured out upon them. The account is found in Acts chap 2. Jehovah has sent many angels historically who did appear in person, but the holy spirit never has. It might help to research the words Ruach and Pneuma to see how they are translated, plus how the holy spirit has played in to God's purpose historically.


Several words are personified in the Bible. Wisdom for example in Pro chap 8. We feel however that is referring to Jesus.
The scripture refers to the Holy Spirit as "He" not "it."

The scripture records the Holy Spirit speaking to the apostles, that He can be grieved, He can be lied to.

He has a mind, emotions and a will! Sounds like a person to me!
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Old 08-16-2021, 07:30 AM
 
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Yahweh.
Or Yeshua
There is no ‘s’ in the Tetragrammaton, יהוה...
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Old 08-16-2021, 07:34 AM
 
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Because the name Jehovah never actually appears. They used YHWH because they didn't use vowels.

If you'd bother to read the translator notes of any Bible, they'll tell you that they used "LORD" as a substitute for a name was that really is not pronounceable.
יהוה is written, however, when read is pronounced adonai...
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Old 08-16-2021, 08:10 AM
 
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No I don't, highway. But I do believe God is much more interested in us getting His plan for mankind right rather than His many names.
There’s 72...
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Old 08-16-2021, 08:13 AM
 
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Peter "inoculated" them with the "medicine" of the Holy Spirit to put them in remission from sin.
Remission...Interesting that when a disease goes into remission that it is able to return...Remission versus cure...This just popped into my head...
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Old 08-16-2021, 08:16 AM
 
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The holy spirit is not a being sir. Jesus told his apostles that he would send a helper, perhaps you agree that he was talking about the holy spirit, that was fulfilled on the following Pentecost, a person did not come rather God's holy spirit was poured out upon them. The account is found in Acts chap 2. Jehovah has sent many angels historically who did appear in person, but the holy spirit never has. It might help to research the words Ruach and Pneuma to see how they are translated, plus how the holy spirit has played in to God's purpose historically.


Several words are personified in the Bible. Wisdom for example in Pro chap 8. We feel however that is referring to Jesus.
The Bible teaches that the Father is a Spirit (John 4:23-24) and that there is one Spirit (Ephesians 4:4). Also that the Holy Ghost is "the Spirit" (John 7:39).

So, that the Holy Ghost is the Person of the Father is evident to me.

The Spirit that dwelt in Jesus Christ was the Father (John 4:23-24, John 14:7-11). He released that Spirit to the Father, who inhabiteth eternity (Isaiah 57:15), with the title of Holy Ghost (Luke 23:46).

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No sir I don't conclude that, why would I. Jesus' God is Jehovah like he personally stated, as well as the Father of Jesus.


Best to know what it means to be baptized in the name of
Whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved (Romans 10:13)

There is none other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved, other than the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth (Acts 4:10-12).

How then is anyone saved by calling on the name "Jehovah"? The name given by which we must be saved is Jesus Christ of Nazareth.

The name of the Lord is Jesus Christ of Nazareth; and if a man is saved by calling on the name of Jehovah, then the name of Jehovah is Jesus Christ of Nazareth.

See it now?
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Old 08-16-2021, 08:17 AM
 
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When God's spirit goes out from Him things happen - Psalm 104:30
The word 'he' is Not found at Romans 8:26-27.
Modern versions have tried to change the neuter word " it " to male gender but that does Not make an "it" a person.
At Numbers 11:17,25 God's spirit is a neuter 'it'.
At Romans 8:16,26 God's spirit (itself) is neuter.
Unlike God and Jesus having a personal name, God's spirit does Not have a given name but is a helper from God for us.
Hebrew only has two genders...
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