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Old 08-25-2021, 06:01 PM
 
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Regardless of how they present themselves the bottom line is that they are liberal Christians.

I have conversed with many of them and issues concerning politics will rise in conversation.

You will not agree with them most of the time, Mike, being a Catholic!
For example, they are pro-choice! I know as a Catholic you would be butting heads with them just as I did most of the time. The list goes on and on that I know you would not agree.
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Old 08-25-2021, 07:39 PM
 
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Regardless of how they present themselves the bottom line is that they are liberal Christians.

I have conversed with many of them and issues concerning politics will rise in conversation.

You will not agree with them most of the time, Mike, being a Catholic!
You're right, Charlie. I'm not at all a fan of "progressive Christianity". I was merely attempting to give the OP an objective answer, leaving my own opinions aside
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Old 08-25-2021, 07:46 PM
 
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You're right, Charlie. I'm not at all a fan of "progressive Christianity". I was merely attempting to give the OP an objective answer, leaving my own opinions aside
This is something we have in common, and many other things, Mike!
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Old 08-25-2021, 08:20 PM
 
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^ Is that all you can do, spit out verses? Is there anything registering inside you... mentally, spiritually, etc? Robots and computers can relay and dictate scriptures. Doesn't take a brain or a soul to do that.
Progressive Christianity seems pretty intolerant and harsh... just like progressive secularists.

Lighten up...
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Old 08-25-2021, 08:34 PM
 
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Jer 6:15, Were they ashamed when they had committed abomination? nay, they were not at all ashamed, neither could they blush: therefore they shall fall among them that fall: at the time that I visit them they shall be cast down, saith the LORD.
Jer 6:16, Thus saith the LORD, Stand ye in the ways, and see, and ask for the old paths, where is the good way, and walk therein, and ye shall find rest for your souls. But they said, We will not walk therein.
Jer 6:17, Also I set watchmen over you, saying, Hearken to the sound of the trumpet. But they said, We will not hearken.
Get your head and heart out of the OT and listen to the Comforter within. We are NOT our savage ancestors!
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Old 08-25-2021, 10:46 PM
 
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^ Is that all you can do, spit out verses? Is there anything registering inside you... mentally, spiritually, etc? Robots and computers can relay and dictate scriptures. Doesn't take a brain or a soul to do that.
It is what I do.

The Bible is the sword that we use against the enemy and of course the devil would love it if we didn't or couldn't use it against him.

Rom 10:8, But what saith <the righteousness of faith>? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;
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Old 08-25-2021, 11:31 PM
 
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That term - regardless of the motivations and slanderings - would have to mean Christianity that doesn't want to just sit around and stay with the old and the familiar [You have your Bible, your sermons, your furniture-like church institutions, but those are rooted in the past, and much of the dead and gone]. "Progressive" would have to deal with the now and future. I.e. not stagnating, but rather moving forward, and making Christianity relevant and useful in the time frame and period we have before us. Applying it to the hear and now, not yesterday - with it's different views and dated ways.

None of it means that the heart of Christianity - as so clearly detailed in the Gospels - changes in any ways. It's more of an abandonment of what we really don't need: such as religion and churchy formality, which dates and ages and grows ineffectual.

And no, there's nothing political with this. It transcends the stupidity of politics.
Yes, I agree to a certain extent - but I’m not so sure that all progressives are necessarily on the right track - it depends what they are progressive about

There have been progressives, fundamentalists, liberals, etc in each “generation” over the 2000 years but just because something is traditional doesn’t mean it’s necessarily bad and just because something is new doesn’t mean it’s necessarily good

Hence this instruction to the scribes

New and Old Treasures
Mat 13:51**Jesus saith unto them, Have ye understood all these things? They say unto him, Yea, Lord.
Mat 13:52**Then said he unto them, Therefore every scribe which is instructed unto the kingdom of heaven is like unto a man that is an householder, which bringeth forth out of his treasure things new and old.
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Old 08-25-2021, 11:42 PM
 
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Get your head and heart out of the OT and listen to the Comforter within. We are NOT our savage ancestors!
Yes...apparently we have evolved as human beings so that such verses as Jeremiah 17:9, Matthew 7:11, and Luke 11:13 no longer apply to us.
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Old 08-26-2021, 09:19 AM
 
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Yes...apparently we have evolved as human beings so that such verses as Jeremiah 17:9, Matthew 7:11, and Luke 11:13 no longer apply to us.
Jeremiah does not apply to us but Matthew 7:11, and Luke 11:13 do. Why do you think they relate. God has "written in our hearts" His Truth and we have the Comforter (Holy Spirit) to guide us to it. Our savage ancestors did not!
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Old 08-26-2021, 09:33 AM
 
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Jeremiah does not apply to us but Matthew 7:11, and Luke 11:13 do. Why do you think they relate. God has "written in our hearts" His Truth and we have the Comforter (Holy Spirit) to guide us to it. Our savage ancestors did not!
In those passages, Jesus addressed His audience as being evil.

Only those who have received Jesus Christ as their Lord and Saviour have regenerated hearts.
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