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Old 09-13-2021, 03:37 PM
 
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Very few that are religious. Although, I do know many, who are not religious.
(Love all, trust few, and do not harm anyone; if given a choice.)
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You know many people who literally live perfect lives?

Jesus didn't say "love all, trust few, and do not harm anyone".

He said "You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength and with all your mind, and your neighbor as yourself."

Did you miss the absolute qualifier there (all)?
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Nowhere is there a command to trust all. And I am not Roman Catholic by any stretch of the imagination.
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"all" being an absolute qualifier as in "You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength and with all your mind, and your neighbor as yourself."

You know "many people" who do that? How would you even know since you can't know a person's heart?



I'm aware. I didn't mention anything at all about Roman Catholicism or Catholic doctrine. Where did that come from?
The qualifier is that I know many, including myself who are NOT of a RELIGIOUS mindset. For your information, you don't have to be religious to love with all your heart and strength, including that of your soul (i.e., mind, will and emotions). Perhaps, you have never known someone fully, nor did they fully know you?
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Old 09-13-2021, 03:59 PM
 
Location: Alabama
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The qualifier is that I know many, including myself who are NOT of a RELIGIOUS mindset. For your information, you don't have to be religious to love with all your heart and strength, including that of your soul (i.e., mind, will and emotions). Perhaps, you have never known someone fully, nor did they fully know you?
What's necessary in order to "love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength and with all your mind, and your neighbor as yourself" is a powerful infusion of the Grace of God.

While it is possible to know/be known very well, I don't know that it's possible to know anyone "fully" or be known "fully" by anyone but God.

We could love God and our neighbor with 99.9999999999% of our heart, soul, strength, etc; but if it's not 100%, then it's not "all".
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Old 09-13-2021, 04:02 PM
 
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Ok, but that's not how it works.
What do you think would happen if mankind got its hands on God again?
You would have Christ be crucified over and over?
If a man is not contrite, how can he be reconciled to God?
"...the will of the damned is obstinate in evil. Hence, he continues to love his sin at the same time that he submits to its punishment. How, then, can God deliver him from his chastisement, while he continues to love his fault? How can God pardon his sin, while the damned is hardened in his hatred for God, if at the same time the Lord offered him pardon and friendship, the damned refused both the one and the other?" ~ St. Alphonsus Ligouri
Mankind can't get their hands on God because No one can see God and live - Exodus 33:20; John 1:18; John 6:46; 1st John 4:12
Mankind today (2nd Timothy 3:1-5,13) would have Christ executed over again.
The corrupted religious leaders got the Roman soldiers to do their dirty work.
The corrupted religious leaders got the people to ask for Barabbas.
The Romans often did mass executions together at one time, so besides the two robbers alongside Jesus there very well could have been more than those three because Luke 23:32 mentions two others so at least two others besides the three.
Plus, a large crowd could have witnessed the executions and then what other events happened that day.
That could very well explain the 3,000 being baptised shortly later as per Acts 2:41; Acts 4:4.
There is No forgiveness for those committing the un-forgivable sin - Matthew 12:32
ALL the wicked will be ' destroyed forever ' Psalm 92:7; Psalms 104:35; Proverbs 2:21-22.
So, I find it is either ' repent ' or ' perish ' (be destroyed) as per 2nd Peter 3:9.
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Old 09-13-2021, 04:05 PM
 
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What's necessary in order to "love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength and with all your mind, and your neighbor as yourself" is a powerful infusion of the Grace of God.
We could love God and our neighbor with 99.9999999999% of our heart, soul, strength, etc; but if it's not 100%, then it's not "all".
Yes, and under the Constitution of the Mosaic Law we find the Golden Rule at Leviticus 19:18.
Now, under Christ's New Commandment found at John 13:34-35 we are to have the same self-sacrificing love for others as Jesus has.
In other words, we are now to love neighbor MORE than self, more than the Golden Rule.
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Old 09-13-2021, 05:16 PM
 
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I'm aware. I didn't mention anything at all about Roman Catholicism or Catholic doctrine. Where did that come from?
Probably from your posts and your screen name. Doesn't it mean: Ever So Catholic ala Mike?
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Old 09-13-2021, 07:58 PM
 
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Probably from your posts and your screen name. Doesn't it mean: Ever So Catholic ala Mike?
LOL, nice one! I hadn’t thought of my username like that, but it fits!
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Old 09-18-2021, 08:13 AM
 
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Ok, but that's not how it works.

What do you think would happen if mankind got its hands on God again?

You would have Christ be crucified over and over?

If a man is not contrite, how can he be reconciled to God?

"...the will of the damned is obstinate in evil. Hence, he continues to love his sin at the same time that he submits to its punishment. How, then, can God deliver him from his chastisement, while he continues to love his fault? How can God pardon his sin, while the damned is hardened in his hatred for God, if at the same time the Lord offered him pardon and friendship, the damned refused both the one and the other?" ~ St. Alphonsus Ligouri
That is how it works mike. we are reconciled by his death whether we believe it or not. Paul goes on to say now be reconciled in your mind that you have been reconciled.
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Old 09-18-2021, 09:43 AM
 
Location: London, England
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Why is it that a handful on this forum keep the fact of sin in the atmosphere! They won't let it go! We could all get along much better if sin was just dropped and we heard no more of it! Of course, I'm speaking mainly of myself!

Isa. 59:2

"But your iniquities have separated between you and your God, and your sins have hid his face from you, that he will not hear."

If you don't care of the things of God, and you are not concerned where you will spend eternity, then carry on with your attitude of sin is no big deal! But if you love the Lord and you thank Him for paying your sin debt, then I have something to say to you from the scripture.

Psalms 1:1-3

"Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful.

But his delight is in the law of the Lord; and in his law doth he meditate day and night.

And he shall be like a tree planted by the rivers of water, that bringeth forth his fruit in his season; his leaf also shall not wither; and whatsoever he doeth shall prosper."

If you love the Lord you will agree with God!

Prov. 8:13

"The fear of the Lord is to hate evil: pride, and arrogancy, and the evil way, and the froward mouth, do I hate."

If it doesn't bother you that your sin, all of our sins have nailed our Lord to the Cross, then you stand in opposition to God the Father, you are separated from Him in transgressions and sin, and the wrath of God abides on you! Like it or not, deal with it or not, you will face God and give account for what you nave done with the Crucified One!

There can be bitterness or happiness with the Lord, that is all up to you!
2 Peter 2:10

10 But chiefly them that walk after the flesh in the lust of uncleanness, and despise government. Presumptuous are they, selfwilled, they are not afraid to speak evil of dignities.


The Sacraments, Indulgences, Corrupted Doctrine of Grace and Confession of the Churches in Christendom work together to produce licentious congregations enjoying and comfortable with their Sins.
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Old 09-18-2021, 02:24 PM
 
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....... we are reconciled by his death whether we believe it or not.
Paul goes on to say now be reconciled in your mind that you have been reconciled.
Peter informs us at 2nd Peter chapter 2 that there is destruction for some, Not reconciliation.
At 2nd Peter 3:9 it is: ' repent ' or ' perish ' ( be destroyed ).
So, it is No wonder Scripture teaches the wicked will be ' destroyed forever ' - Psalm 92:7; Psalm 104:35; Proverbs 2:21-22
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Old 09-18-2021, 03:30 PM
 
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Peter informs us at 2nd Peter chapter 2 that there is destruction for some, Not reconciliation.
At 2nd Peter 3:9 it is: ' repent ' or ' perish ' ( be destroyed ).
So, it is No wonder Scripture teaches the wicked will be ' destroyed forever ' - Psalm 92:7; Psalm 104:35; Proverbs 2:21-22
However Jesus says his purpose was to save the perished, the lost

Luk 19:9**And Jesus said unto him, This day is salvation come to this house, forsomuch as he also is a son of Abraham.
Luk 19:10**For the Son of man is come to seek and to save that which was lost.
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