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So you believe that the KJV has it right and all these other translations have it wrong? Have you read the context? How does Christ claming equality with God make the point of humility? It doesnt mesh. That is why all of these other translations have to agree.
The humility is in how He lived, not denying who He was.
Phl 2:7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
Much more powerful for one that is righteous and godly to show perfect humility, than One who is not Equal.
Yes, it is. Humility does not include lies.
Jesus is equal to God, He gets it. We are to have this same mind. That is what a Son or Daughter of God inherits.
This is why the Jewish leaders devised to kill Him.
We are to have this mind, that it is NOT robbery to be equal to God.
What Dad wants less for his son or daughter (assuming they are loving).
Does God want less for us? He is not afraid of us being like Him, He commands it, and desires it.
These other translations, mock the desire of God's heart.
godspeed,
freedom
I do not agree. I think that verse is aperfect example of human error in translation. The other translations make the proper point; the one that was intended-that though Christ existed in God's form, he did not claim equality with God in that he showed humility by bowing to his father's authority.
I do not agree. I think that verse is aperfect example of human error in translation. The other translations make the proper point; the one that was intended-that though Christ existed in God's form, he did not claim equality with God in that he showed humility by bowing to his father's authority.
Authority and position has nothing to do with equality.
If you ask anything in my name, i will do it....To those who believe (be-Live). This is the same relationship that Jesus and God have, the One we are to have with Jesus.
So you believe that the KJV has it right and all these other translations have it wrong? Have you read the context? How does Christ claming equality with God make the point of humility? It doesnt mesh. That is why all of these other translations have to agree.
I agree with the 'humility' part. Jesus was refering to becoming man for awhile...therefore the 'not clinging to being equal to God the Father'. This is one case where I prefer the Confraternity translation. Jesus did not say He was not egual with God. He is saying He gave it up while he was in the flesh.
I agree with the 'humility' part. Jesus was refering to becoming man for awhile...therefore the 'not clinging to being equal to God the Father'. This is one case where I prefer the Confraternity translation. Jesus did not say He was not egual with God. He is saying He gave it up while he was in the flesh.
He would never say that He was not equal, man sure did though.
If He gave it up, then He would cease to be Christ.
The power of God was with Him everyday, which day was it not?
Even on the Cross, he laid His life down and took it up.
He was sanctified, and One. No giving that up.
When will we understand that Jesus came to show us the Way to being like Him and our Father.
THe Way of this possibility is through His gift. That is what allows us to grow from grace to grace.
That if we mess up, we have the gift of Jesus to lead us to repentence and forgiveness.
The path of Christ is being One with God. That is the meat that we are to digest and assimilate.
I think it's all very easily explained by the knowledge that Jesus and God are unified in their purpose, but not one person. That is the understanding I have from my own study of the bible.
He would never say that He was not equal, man sure did though.
If He gave it up, then He would cease to be Christ.
The power of God was with Him everyday, which day was it not?
Even on the Cross, he laid His life down and took it up.
He was sanctified, and One. No giving that up.
godspeed,
freedom
So...what do you do with verses 7 and 8 ????
KJV Phil. 2.7-8 But made himself of no reputation, and took opon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.
And...
Verse 9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name :.........
KJV Phil. 2.7-8 But made himself of no reputation, and took opon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.
And...
Verse 9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name :.........
To me this is the part of godly humility, Equal to God, yet able to humble himself as if He were a sinful man.
godspeed,
freedom
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