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Old 03-07-2022, 01:01 PM
 
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NT ckearly states that it's not the final product, just a guide to know how.
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Old 03-07-2022, 01:03 PM
 
Location: Alabama
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The RCC preaches a gospel that neither Jesus, Paul or any Apostle ever preached. That fact is undeniable.
"Undeniable", eh? Wow.
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Old 03-07-2022, 01:06 PM
 
Location: Alabama
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I think even you would agree that we can trust the New Testament for God’s plan of salvation, His design for our work, our worship and the organization of His church.
Even I?

All of those people you listed in your opening post would claim to trust the New Testament for all of those things.

Do you really think that you and whoever agrees with you are the only ones who trust in the New Testament?
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Old 03-07-2022, 02:58 PM
 
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NT recorded that Apostles, some more than others, did not undestand Jesus.
Probably because they were still learning. Imho, they didn’t really get it until they were given the Holy Spirit on Pentecost. Even after that, lessons were being learned.
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Old 03-07-2022, 03:01 PM
 
Location: Salt Lake City
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NT ckearly states that it's not the final product, just a guide to know how.
Again.
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Old 03-07-2022, 04:05 PM
 
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Probably because they were still learning. Imho, they didn’t really get it until they were given the Holy Spirit on Pentecost. Even after that, lessons were being learned.
Kingdom of Spirit has no end.
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Old 03-07-2022, 04:09 PM
 
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Kingdom of Spirit has no end.
..... and Kingdom of God (Daniel 2:44) has No end because after the thousand years Jesus hands back God's Kingdom to his God according to 1st Corinthians 15:24-26
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Old 03-07-2022, 06:21 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Paul wrote to the churches of Galatia,

“ 8 But even if WE or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what WE have preached to you, let him be accursed. 9 As WE have said before, so now I say again, if anyone preaches any other gospel to you THAN WHAT YOU RECEIVED, let him be accursed.”

WE equals Paul and the other Apostles who were guided by the Holy Spirit.

WE does not equal Ignatius, Polycarp, Clement, Irenaeus, Justin Martyr, or any church father. They were not led by the Holy Spirit. They were not inspired.

WE does not equal any Pope. We does not equal Charles Rutherford, Joseph Smith, Ellen White, Martin Luther, John Calvin, or Ulrich Zwingli.

Take the advice Jesus gave.

“Disregard them! They are blind guides. If a blind man leads a blind man, both will fall into a pit.” (Matthew 15:14)
I agree. Christ knows exactly what to say, so why turn to men.

By referring to this, when you read you can understand my insight into the mystery of Christ,


16 All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, 17 that the man of God may be complete, equipped for every good work.

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Old 03-07-2022, 06:44 PM
 
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Paul wrote to the churches of Galatia,

“ 8 But even if WE or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what WE have preached to you, let him be accursed. 9 As WE have said before, so now I say again, if anyone preaches any other gospel to you THAN WHAT YOU RECEIVED, let him be accursed.”

WE equals Paul and the other Apostles who were guided by the Holy Spirit.

WE does not equal Ignatius, Polycarp, Clement, Irenaeus, Justin Martyr, or any church father. They were not led by the Holy Spirit. They were not inspired.

WE does not equal any Pope. We does not equal Charles Rutherford, Joseph Smith, Ellen White, Martin Luther, John Calvin, or Ulrich Zwingli.

Take the advice Jesus gave.

“Disregard them! They are blind guides. If a blind man leads a blind man, both will fall into a pit.” (Matthew 15:14)
Do you include these "gospels"?
And if not, why ?

1-4. The Canonical Gospels
5. The Gospel according to the Hebrews.
6. The Gospel of Peter.
7. The Gospel according to the Egyptians
8. The Gospel of Matthias.
9. The Gospel of Philip.
10. The Gospel of Thomas.
11. The Proto-Evangelium of James.
12. The Gospel of Nicodemus (Acta Pilati).
13.The Gospel of the Twelve Apostles.
14.The Gospel of Basilides.
15.The Gospel of Valentinus.
16.The Gospel of Marcion.
17.The Gospel of Eve.
18.The Gospel of Judas.
19.The writing Genna Marias.
20.The Gospel Teleioseos.
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Old 03-08-2022, 01:32 AM
 
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Do you include these "gospels"?
And if not, why ?

1-4. The Canonical Gospels
5. The Gospel according to the Hebrews.
6. The Gospel of Peter.
7. The Gospel according to the Egyptians
8. The Gospel of Matthias.
9. The Gospel of Philip.
10. The Gospel of Thomas.
11. The Proto-Evangelium of James.
12. The Gospel of Nicodemus (Acta Pilati).
13.The Gospel of the Twelve Apostles.
14.The Gospel of Basilides.
15.The Gospel of Valentinus.
16.The Gospel of Marcion.
17.The Gospel of Eve.
18.The Gospel of Judas.
19.The writing Genna Marias.
20.The Gospel Teleioseos.
They were not included in the canon of holy scripture (other than 1-4).

and,

Act 15:18, Known unto God are all his works from the beginning of the world.
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