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Old 10-03-2023, 12:42 PM
 
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So, are the recent UFO sightings creatures from another dimension? Will UFOs or aliens be blamed for disappearance of millions of people after rapture?
It's a very real possibility that this will be an explanation for the Rapture. It's also a possibility that the elites and globalists want to use the UFO concerns to convince the population that the world needs to unite in a one-world government to protect our civilization from this threat, along with the climate crisis and onslaught of pandemics, etc...

 
Old 10-03-2023, 12:47 PM
 
Location: New Zealand
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How do you figure he doesn't know, and why is it not important to end up in a good place/dimension, rather then a bad one?

I found it interesting, but those who think its not interesting can just ignore it.
I don’t think it is about people not being interested, if they click on the thread they are definitely interested in the topic, it is about not believing in the interpretations and speculations that there is going to be the actual destruction of the literal planet earth and Christian’s to be transported to the spiritual realm that is envisioned by the more imaginative part of Protestant Christianity

I think there is value in some of the thoughts that were in the book that started all of these speculations

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_La...t_Planet_Earth

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The Late Great Planet Earth is a treatment of literalist, premillennial, dispensational eschatology. As such, it compared end-time prophecies in the Bible with then-current events in an attempt to predict future scenarios resulting in the rapture of believers before the tribulation and Second Coming of Jesus to establish his thousand-year (i.e. millennial) kingdom on Earth. Emphasizing various passages in the books of Daniel, Ezekiel and Revelation, Lindsey originally suggested the possibility that these climactic events might occur during the 1980s, which he interpreted as one generation from the foundation of modern Israel during 1948, a major event according to some conservative evangelical schools of eschatological thought. Cover art of the Bantam edition suggested that the 1970s were the "era of the Antichrist as foretold by Moses and Jesus," and termed the book "a penetrating look at incredible ancient prophecies involving this generation." Descriptions of alleged "fulfilled" prophecy were offered as proof of the infallibility of God's word, and evidence that "unfulfilled" prophecies would soon find their denouement in God's plan for the planet.
He cited an increase in the frequency of famines, wars and earthquakes, as major events just prior to the end of the world. He also foretold a Soviet invasion of Israel (War of Gog and Magog). Lindsey also predicted that the European Economic Community, which preceded the European Union, was destined (according to Biblical prophecy) to become a "United States of Europe", which in turn he says is destined to become a "Revived Roman Empire" ruled by the Antichrist. Lindsey wrote that he had concluded, since there was no apparent mention of America in the books of Daniel or Revelation, that America would not be a major geopolitical power by the time the tribulations of the end times arrived. He found little in the Bible that could represent the U.S., but he suggested that Ezekiel 38:13 could be speaking of the U.S. in part.
Although Lindsey did not claim to know the dates of future events with any certainty, he suggested that Matthew 24:32-34 indicated that Jesus' return might be within "one generation" of the rebirth of the state of Israel, and the rebuilding of the Jewish Temple, and Lindsey asserted that "in the Bible" one generation is forty years. Some readers accepted this as an indication that the Tribulation or the Rapture would occur no later than 1988. In his 1980 work The 1980s: Countdown to Armageddon, Lindsey predicted that "the decade of the 1980s could very well be the last decade of history as we know it".
The Late Great Planet Earth was the first Christian prophecy book to be published by a secular publisher (Bantam, 1973) and sell many copies. 28 million copies had sold by 1990
There is still a need to use discernment about what the purpose is though
 
Old 10-03-2023, 01:04 PM
 
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It's an interesting subject here since aliens, ghosts, miracles, visions, saviors, religious faith, ufos, etc., are all simply unexplainable except for the belief in them by the individual. And it's the interesting spin that individuals invest in these beliefs that act like a sort of rorschach test.

Of all the things discussed above in this thread the only item with any standing in reality as we know it are the ufos that are recorded & witnessed by credible observers. How some people try to expound on what they might be, or probably are, is the beginning of a faith: a belief in something that cannot be explained except through some "enlightened" person.

I think a more interesting discussion among religious folks isn't trying to guess what these are but would the existence of other "worlds" - physical or inter dimensional, would these necessitate a different savior for each world? Is salvation only required of earthlings (according to Christians) or do all moral beings need saviors on whatever plane they exist & then how does that affect the notion of, say the Trinity? Or what does that mean for the notion of an afterlife?
 
Old 10-03-2023, 02:55 PM
 
Location: Florida
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I don’t think it is about people not being interested, if they click on the thread they are definitely interested in the topic, it is about not believing in the interpretations and speculations that there is going to be the actual destruction of the literal planet earth and Christian’s to be transported to the spiritual realm that is envisioned by the more imaginative part of Protestant Christianity

I think there is value in some of the thoughts that were in the book that started all of these speculations

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_La...t_Planet_Earth

"Although Lindsey did not claim to know the dates of future events with any certainty, he suggested that Matthew 24:32-34 indicated that Jesus' return might be within "one generation" of the rebirth of the state of Israel, and the rebuilding of the Jewish Temple, and Lindsey asserted that "in the Bible" one generation is forty years. Some readers accepted this as an indication that the Tribulation or the Rapture would occur no later than 1988. In his 1980 work The 1980s: Countdown to Armageddon, Lindsey predicted that "the decade of the 1980s could very well be the last decade of history as we know it".
The Late Great Planet Earth was the first Christian prophecy book to be published by a secular publisher (Bantam, 1973) and sell many copies. 28 million copies had sold by 1990"

There is still a need to use discernment about what the purpose is though
There have always been people who thought the end is just around the corner and current times are no different, and it didn't start in the 70s.
 
Old 10-03-2023, 03:02 PM
 
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I do believe that the various aspects of the spiritual realm are other dimensional.
I believe they are aspects of the human imagination That being said, they are entertaining.....if we did not have ufos angels demons multiple dimensions, then Sci FI Horror occult stories and films would be more or less impossible. It is the imagination of humans, which creates these things, just like the human mind fabricates god or gods....but the entertainment value is off the charts sometimes.
 
Old 10-03-2023, 03:05 PM
 
Location: New Zealand
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There have always been people who thought the end is just around the corner and current times are no different, and it didn't start in the 70s.
I know that people believing that the end is nigh didn’t start in the 1970’s

What started in the 1970’s was the belief and hype about the disappearance of million of physical literal people (Christians) in ‘the rapture’

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Old 10-03-2023, 03:51 PM
 
Location: Northeastern US
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The pastor discusses the demonic distraction and confusion with the UFO, and he speculates the UFOs might be blamed for the disappearance of people in the rapture.
The key word is "speculates".

It is my view that the government supposedly looking into UFOs or whatever they're calling them this week, is a political distraction, not from this rapture thing that has supposedly been imminent for 2000 years now, but from the real problems in this country. It's just bread and circuses.
 
Old 10-03-2023, 03:57 PM
 
Location: New Zealand
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The key word is "speculates".

It is my view that the government supposedly looking into UFOs or whatever they're calling them this week, is a political distraction, not from this rapture thing that has supposedly been imminent for 2000 years now, but from the real problems in this country. It's just bread and circuses.
That is the oldest trick in the book - looking for a scapegoat to distract the attention away from yourself and pass the blame to someone else
 
Old 10-03-2023, 04:10 PM
 
Location: minnesota
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It's a very real possibility that this will be an explanation for the Rapture. It's also a possibility that the elites and globalists want to use the UFO concerns to convince the population that the world needs to unite in a one-world government to protect our civilization from this threat, along with the climate crisis and onslaught of pandemics, etc...
United people dont need governance tho.
 
Old 10-03-2023, 04:22 PM
 
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United people dont need governance tho.
One-world govt, cashless society, digital ID's, UFO's, climate crisis, pandemics, world debt collapse, etc... are on the horizon. Who can save us? In steps in antichrist, though the world will see him as a savior.
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