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And since all things have been fulfilled in 70 AD, where in history is there documented proof that Israel has ever signed a 7-year peace treaty with any other nation? Much less had it broken within a three year period? Note: The peace treaty and the breaking of it, are requirements to the fulfilling of Revelation.
Yet another requirement is the revealing, assassination and the rising of the anti-christ from the dead. Happened when? One question at a time please. Preferably tonight.............................
Well, it could be said by a believer that what some in Christianity are telling about Jesus is a bit pathetic. Like He is going to blow up America and throw all unbelievers into a literal burning pit for all eternity. The word 'pathetic' definitely comes to mind, right away.
I guess an unbeliever would think that it's pathetic.
And since all things have been fulfilled in 70 AD, where in history is there documented proof that Israel has ever signed a 7-year peace treaty with any other nation? Much less had it broken within a three year period? Note: The peace treaty and the breaking of it, are requirements to the fulfilling of Revelation.
Yet another requirement is the revealing, assassination and the rising of the anti-christ from the dead. Happened when? One question at a time please. Preferably tonight.............................
Hi Betsey Lane,
That is yet another thing that does not appear in the Bible. It is one of those one line assumptions that has no cross reference anywhere. Daniel 9 mentions one of the most important prophesies of the anointed whose purpose was to bring the Covenant and this is considered a 7 year peace treaty of the antichrist?
There is an alternate view :
The people or Hebrew "Am" is used in "people" of the prince. There is no mention of nations or Goyim. This indicates Jews. The Talmud and Josephus indicate the sanctuary and Jerusalem was largely destroyed by civil war before the Romans complete its desolation. First the Jews destroy the city, then the "one" who makes desolate comes (Titus). The desolations that follow was also the will of Christ just as God used Babylon to judge Israel. I do not see anything about an antichrist in Daniel 9
The ministry of Jesus was 3 and 1/2 years. After the crucifixion of Jesus until the spirit spilled upon the Gentiles was also another 3 and 1/2 years. Based upon Hebrews and other Talmud references showing a disturbance (Yoma 39b) there is every reason to believe the sacrifice was ceased by the sacrifice of Jesus. This is especially true since anything after 35 AD or so is woefully late for the 70 week prophesy. Speaking of reading and believing God I take the 70 X 7 sabbatical years literally beginning at the 20th year of Artaxerxes( when the city was ordered restored not the house(temple) by Cyrus) and ending 490 years later with no gaps.
There are no "stop watches"
There are no "gaps"
The above represents one of the most scandalous additions to scripture I have ever witnessed.
There are no false prophesies given by God.
This view is on time, does not leave out the covenant of the Christ and is consistent historically.
Hebrews 9
28 So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.
Those without sin will see Him unto salvation.
Those with sin will see Him but NOT unto salvation
I am twisting scripture? Where in the world do you read that in those verses? You just make it up. It clearly says he will appear a second time for those that eagerly wait for him. Are you suggesting those that reject him eagerly wait for him? Are you suggesting returning for salvation includes judgment? I really can't understand many of the things you post. I don't even know what you are saying.
Good. You're here. Let me straighten out your numbers according to the Holy Scriptures:
The Bible warns of a coming (not here yet) prophetic event. A coming peace "plan", "treaty", "covenant" or "resolution" that will be enforce upon the people and nation of Israel. We are warned in the Bible prophecy of a coming 7 year period ("one week of years") which will be defined by a "peace treaty" which will be forced upon Israel. This "one week of years" or 7 years is revealed in the book of Daniel (9:27).....and then in the book of Revelation. Chapters 6-20 of Revelation provides you with the whole detail of events which will take place during the coming 7 year period of time which is prophesied in the book of Daniel.
Pay attention here, very important: This coming "peace plan", "treaty", "resolution" will be 'enforced' (confirmed) by a coming world leader who (we are told in bible prophecy) will rise first over a group of 10 nations which were once part of the Roman Empire. (no speculations here, you just watch). The Bible does'nt say this coming world leader writes this coming 'peace plan', or 'treaty', but says he will enforce a 'peace plan' (covenant) upon Israel.... ( This coming "peace plan' may have been drafted sometime earlier....)
The Bible also warns exactly 3 and 1/2 years (1260 days) after this 'false peace' is enforced, this 'peace plan' or 'treaty, will be 'annulled' by a coming world leader (the Anti-Christ) while addressing the world from a newly built Jewish Temple which will someday be built in Jerusalem....it will be this address, given by this leader, from a newly built Jewish Temple, which will trigger the terrors of the final 3 and 1/2 years of the Great Tribulation.
More attention needed here too: Here the Bible warns a coming world leader (Anti-Christ) will rise out of nations that once made up the 'Roman Empire' who destroyed the city and Temple......
"And the people (Roman Empire)
of the prince who is to come (Anti-Christ)
shall destroy the city (Jerusalem)
and the sanctuary (the Jewish Temple)." (Rome destroyed the temple in 70 AD)
Daniel 9:26
Daniel wrote these prophesies about 500 years BEFORE Rome came against Jerusalem and the Temple....
"Then (later) he ( 'the prince who is to come'....the coming Anti-Christ)
shall confirm (enforce)
a covenant "peace plan' or 'peace treaty')
with many (in Israel)
for one week (a week of years = 7 years)
But in the middle of the week
(exactly 3 and 1/2 years after the "peace'..)
He shall bring and end to sacrifice and offering.
(He will probably help Jerusalem build a new Temple first)
And on the wing of abominations
shall be one who makes desolate..." (Revelation chapts. 6-20 detail the coming events of this time)
(The coming "Apocalypse'....the 'Great Tribulation'....Armageddon)
The world will soon get the leader it seems to be longing and waiting for.This powerful leader will be popular, attractive, charismatic and a great talker whose many words will not be chosen for truth, but for lies and deception. This coming leader, who has many titles in the Bible including the Anti-Christ, will kill many Jews and Christians.
The Bible has so much for us to read and understand. Though many of us may have been confuse by the book of Revelation, it's for today, and what may have seem back then un-comprehensible, can be understood clearly today. It's for our time. An unveiling of future events.
That is yet another thing that does not appear in the Bible. It is one of those one line assumptions that has no cross reference anywhere. Daniel 9 mentions one of the most important prophesies of the anointed whose purpose was to bring the Covenant and this is considered a 7 year peace treaty of the antichrist?
There is an alternate view :
The people or Hebrew "Am" is used in "people" of the prince. There is no mention of nations or Goyim. This indicates Jews. The Talmud and Josephus indicate the sanctuary and Jerusalem was largely destroyed by civil war before the Romans complete its desolation. First the Jews destroy the city, then the "one" who makes desolate comes (Titus). The desolations that follow was also the will of Christ just as God used Babylon to judge Israel. I do not see anything about an antichrist in Daniel 9
The ministry of Jesus was 3 and 1/2 years. After the crucifixion of Jesus until the spirit spilled upon the Gentiles was also another 3 and 1/2 years. Based upon Hebrews and other Talmud references showing a disturbance (Yoma 39b) there is every reason to believe the sacrifice was ceased by the sacrifice of Jesus. This is especially true since anything after 35 AD or so is woefully late for the 70 week prophesy. Speaking of reading and believing God I take the 70 X 7 sabbatical years literally beginning at the 20th year of Artaxerxes( when the city was ordered restored not the house(temple) by Cyrus) and ending 490 years later with no gaps.
There are no "stop watches"
There are no "gaps"
The above represents one of the most scandalous additions to scripture I have ever witnessed.
There are no false prophesies given by God.
This view is on time, does not leave out the covenant of the Christ and is consistent historically.
I agree with you - the 70 week prophecy is totally about Jesus the Messiah (the prince) who was to come and parts of that prophecy are taken out of context and pasted into a "antichrist" scenario 2000 years later.
Dan 9:24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.
Dan 9:25 Know therefore and understand, [that] from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince [shall be] seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.
Dan 9:26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof [shall be] with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.
Here surely the prince that is coming is the cut off Messiah and the city and sanctuary being destroyed is related to the Messiah being cut off - not some totally unrelated event 2000 years in the future. It is explaning what is happening after the Messiah is cut off Then the prophecy goes back to what the Messiah is doing in the last week ie 7 years covering baptism to rejection of gospel by the Jews via his disciples in the last 3 and - stoning of Stephen
Dan 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make [it] desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.
1. The entire prophecy of Daniel 9:24-27 covers a period of “seventy weeks,” or 490 years. Logic requires that “seventy weeks” refers to one consecutive block of time, in other words, to seventy straight sequential weeks. There is no example in Scripture (or anywhere else!) of a stated time period starting, stopping, and then starting again. All biblical references to time are consecutive: 40 days and 40 nights (see Genesis 7:4), 400 years in Egypt (see Genesis 15:13), 70 years of captivity (see Daniel 9:2), etc. In Daniel’s prophecy, the “seventy weeks” were to begin during the reign of Persia and continue to the time of the Messiah.
2. Logic also requires that the 70th week follow immediately after the 69th week. If it doesn’t, then it cannot properly be called the 70th week!
3. It is illogical to insert a 2,000-year gap between the 69th and 70th week. No hint of a gap is found in the prophecy itself. There is no gap between the first seven weeks and the following sixty-two weeks, so why insert one between the 69th and 70th week?
Note: If you told your child to be in bed in 70 minutes, you obviously would mean 70 consecutive minutes. What if five hours later your fully awake son said, “But dad, I know 69 minutes have passed, but the 70th minute hasn’t started yet!”? After receiving an appropriate punishment, he would be swiftly sent to bed.
4. Daniel 9:27 says nothing about a seven-year period of “tribulation,” a “rebuilt” Jewish temple, or any “antichrist.”
5. The stated focus of this prophecy is the Messiah, not the antichrist. After the Messiah is “cut off” (referring to Christ’s death), the text says, “And the people of the prince who is to come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary.” I n the past, this has been consistently applied to the destruction of Jerusalem and the second temple by Roman armies led by Prince Titus in A.D. 70. 11
6. “He shall confirm the covenant.” Paul said “the covenant” was “confirmed before by God in Christ” (Galatians 3:17). Jesus Christ came “to confirm the promises made to the fathers” (Romans 15:8, emphasis added). In the King James Version, Daniel 9:27 doesn’t say “ a covenant” or peace treaty, but “ the covenant,” which applies to the New Covenant. Nowhere in the Bible does the antichrist make, confirm, or break a covenant with anyone. The word “covenant” is Messianic, and always applies to the Messiah, not the antichrist.
7. “He shall confirm the covenant with many. ” Jesus Christ said, “This is My blood of the new covenant, which is shed for many… ” (Matthew 26:28). Behold a perfect fit! Jesus was quoting Daniel 9:27 specifically.
8. “In the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease.” After exactly three and a half years of holy ministry, Jesus Christ died on the cross, “in the midst of the week [in the middle of the seven years].” At the exact moment of His death, “the veil of the temple was torn in two from top to bottom…” (Matthew 27:51). This act of God signified that all animal sacrifices at that moment ceased to be of value. Why? Because the Perfect Sacrifice had been offered!
9. “For the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate.” “The abomination of desolation” (see Matthew 24:15) is not a simple subject, yet we know that Jesus clearly applied this event to the time when His followers were to flee from Jerusalem before the destruction of the second temple in A.D. 70. In a parallel text to Matthew 24:15, Jesus told His disciples, “When you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies [Roman armies led by Prince Titus], then know that its desolation is near ” (Luke 21:20, emphasis added). The disciples did “see” those very events. Because of the “abominations” of the Pharisees, Jesus told them, “See! Your house is left to you desolate” (Matthew 23:38). Thus Gabriel’s statement in Daniel 9:27 about Jerusalem becoming “desolate” was perfectly fulfilled in A.D. 70.
10. Gabriel said that the 70-week prophecy specifically applied to the Jewish people (see Daniel 9:24). During the period of Christ’s public ministry of 3 1 / 2 years, the Master’s focus was largely upon “the lost sheep of the house of Israel” (Matthew 10:6). After His resurrection and then for another 3 1/2 years, His disciples preached mostly to Jews (see Acts 1-6). After that second 3 1/2 -year period, in 34 A.D., the bold Stephen was stoned by the Jewish Sanhedrin (see Acts 7). This infamous deed marked the then-ruling Jewish leaders’ final, official rejection of the gospel of our Savior. Then the gospel went to the Gentiles. In Acts 9, Saul became Paul, the “apostle to the Gentiles” (Romans 11:13). In Acts 10, God gave Peter a vision revealing it was now time to preach to the Gentiles (see Acts 10:1-28). Read also Acts 13:46. Thus approximately 3 1/2 years after the crucifixion— and at the end of the 70-week prophecy given f or the Jewish people—the gospel shifted to the Gentiles exactly as predicted in Bible prophecy.
The explosive evidence is overwhelming! Point by point the events of Daniel’s 70th week have been fulfilled in the past. These eight words found in Daniel 9:27: “confirm…covenant…many…midst…sacrifice…cease… abominations…desolate” all find perfect fulfillment in Jesus Christ and early Christian history.
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