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Old 07-07-2009, 07:44 PM
 
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Here's a few before 1000 AD:

AD 247, Christian prophets declare that the persecutions by the Romans are a sign of the impending return of Jesus.


AD 300 Lactantius Firmianus (AD c260 - AD c340), called the "Christian Cicero", from his Divinae Institutiones: "The fall and ruin of the world will soon take place, but it seems that nothing of the kind is to be feared as the city of Rome stands intact." Rome would fall in AD 410. --TEOTW pg 27

AD 300 St. Martin, Bishop of Tours: "Non est dubium, quin antichristus...There is no doubt that the Antichrist has already been born. Firmly established already in his early years, he will, after reaching maturity, achieve supreme power." --TEOTW pg 27

AD 365, Hilary of Poitiers predicted the world would end in 365.

AD 380, The Donatists, a North African Christian sect, predicted the world would end in 380.

AD 387 St. Ambrose, Bishop of Milan, identified the Goths with Ezekial's Gog. The Goths had just destroyed the Imperial army at Adrianople, prompting Ambrose to say, "...the end of the world is coming upon us." --TEOTW pg 27

AD 410 When Rome was sacked, some proclaimed, (as reported by St. Augustine of Hippo) "Behold, from Adam all the years have passed, and behold, the 6,000 years are completed." This alludes to the Great Week theory, held by many millennialists, that the God-alloted time of man on earth was 6,000 years, to be followed by a thousand years of peace under the earthly reign of Christ. --TIME pg 30

AD 500 At the mid-fifth century, Vandal invasions recalled calculations that the world would end in the year 500, 6000 years after Creation, and spurred new calculations to show that the name of the Vandal king Genseric represented 666: the number of the Beast. --Apoc pg 34

AD 500 Hippolytus of Rome, a third-century theologian supported the oft-accepted (for the day) view of the end of the world occuring sometime around the year AD 500. He used a mass of scriptural evidence, including the dimensions of the ark of the covenant. --TIME pg 31

AD 500 Roman theologian Sextus Julius Africanus (ca. 160-240) predicted the second coming of Jesus in the year 500.

AD 500 The theologian Irenaeus predicted the second coming of Jesus in the year 500.

AD 590 Bishop Gregory of Tours, who died in AD 594, calculated the Time of the End for sometime between 799 and 806. --Apoc pg 48

AD 793 Elipand, bishop of Toledo, accused Beatus, abbot of Liebana, of having prophesied the end of the world. Beatus made the prediction on Easter Eve, predicting the end of the world that very night, sparking a riot. --Apoc 49-50

AD 800 Sextus Julius Africanus predicted the second coming of Jesus in the year 800.

AD 800 Beatus of Liébana, not having learned anything from the riot he started in 793, wrote in his Commentary on the Apocalypse that the world would end in the year 800 at the latest.

AD 806 Bishop Gregory of Tours predicted the world would end between 799 and 806.

Ad 848 The Christian prophetess Thiota predicted the world would end in 848.

Armageddon Online - Failed Armageddon & End of the World Predictions and Prophecies

I've made it no secret that I believe it's a fruitless and resource wasting pastime, the obsession some have with preparing for the literal 'end' of the world.

Of course the bible actually speaks of the end of an era, or 'age' which was to be fulfilled in Jesus' own generation (as was).

But it's a lot more fun (and profitable) to speculate about the
miracle working anti-christ or a Nephilim alien invasion, isn't it?

Some of my friends say stuff like "Why care for the earth - it's all gonna burn anyway"

Several days ago someone sat 2 feet in front of me explaining why there are questions about Obama's birth certificate (they said "It's because his dad is really from" *pointing down toward the ground* "down there!".)

An elderly family member of mine is broke having given all their retirement money to missionaries - supposedly hasting the end of days ("this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached to all nations - then cometh the end!").

So, the more TBN satellite receivers we pay for the sooner Jesus comes back, right?

I realize that many have learned their lesson from the y2k scam, but really - these scams seem never ending! What do you guys think?


Good history of the end of the world. It seems like the church never learns. Hopefully we can see the tide of pessimism change with a more optimistic kingdom worldview. God bless.
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Old 07-08-2009, 09:08 AM
 
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Jack Van Impe has just released a new dvd called "December 21, 2012 History's Final Day". In this video, Van Impe will "demonstrate the very real possibility that 2012 could be a year of culmination"

It"s the VERY REAL POSSIBILITY. Notice there is no total commitment, but only a VERY REAL POSSIBILITY. This is the LOOPHOLE needed when it doesn't happen. He just wants to keep us on our toes, and sell those videos.
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Old 07-09-2009, 10:33 PM
 
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Jack Van Impe has just released a new dvd called "December 21, 2012 History's Final Day". In this video, Van Impe will "demonstrate the very real possibility that 2012 could be a year of culmination"

It"s the VERY REAL POSSIBILITY. Notice there is no total commitment, but only a VERY REAL POSSIBILITY. This is the LOOPHOLE needed when it doesn't happen. He just wants to keep us on our toes, and sell those videos.
"Jack" is the card with a picture of a knave on it. It also means to hoist up. Think of what he lifts up. "Van" (Son of) "Imp e"...well named: "Unprincipled crafty man lifting up the offspring of a small demon." He rattles off Scripture references that, when you look them up, don't read anything like what he's saying, among other complaints. The rest of his ilk capitalize on the same thing: the ignorance of the millions who follow them in deception.

Has anyone else noticed they never allow, either in their meetings or on television, a good long drawn out debate about eschatology? I can't remember even a short public debate. Of all times when we should be seeking after the opening of the books it surely is now! They hold what they call "Prophecy Conferences," but don't allow anybody to confer. Instead these gatherings just host orations everybody else is supposed to believe. It's what John (3:20-21) records as hating the light and not coming into the light as well, "lest his deeds should be reproved." It's nothing new!
For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.

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Old 07-10-2009, 12:00 AM
 
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Jack Van Impe has just released a new dvd called "December 21, 2012 History's Final Day". In this video, Van Impe will "demonstrate the very real possibility that 2012 could be a year of culmination"

It"s the VERY REAL POSSIBILITY. Notice there is no total commitment, but only a VERY REAL POSSIBILITY. This is the LOOPHOLE needed when it doesn't happen. He just wants to keep us on our toes, and sell those videos.
Exactly. He`s been predicting the rapture and end of the world for 20 yrs. But people keep on buying his books and dvd`s and making him rich. He started out being very sure of his dates but since they came and went, he isn`t so dogmatic about the dates anymore. He just creates a NEW dvd for every possible earth changing event , political change or upheavel on the horizon and makes that his basis for each new DVD or book for the rapture and end of the world. It just never ceases to amaze me that people keep buying it. If he was truly led by the Lord and the Holy Spirit was really talking to him and giving him knowledge don`t you think he would have been right at least once in the past 20 yrs? You have to hand it to these guys though, they know how to capitalize on God and keep the sheep coming back for more and the money rolling in.
It`s like all he and the others have to say is...God told me this or God gave it to me in a dream etc. and people fall for it every time. Meanwhile these guys just keep raking in the money. Their followers never seem to get it through their head that if God tells you something then it will happen just like he said. If God has been talking to van impe and the rest of these charlatans, we all would have been raptured 20 yrs ago when they wrote their first book. Twenty years and millions of dollars later we are all still here and they keep writing the books and making a killing.
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Old 07-10-2009, 12:25 AM
 
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Several days ago someone sat 2 feet in front of me explaining why there are questions about Obama's birth certificate (they said "It's because his dad is really from" *pointing down toward the ground* "down there!".)
In order for this silly assertion to be true, Obama would have to wake up one morning, turn to Michelle, and say, "Michelle, it's just not working out between us. I think we should split." She would then ask, "Is it another woman?" He would reply, "Nah! Strange, but suddenly woman just don't do anything for me anymore." Whereupon she would scream angrily at him, "YOU BEAST!!!!"

"Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all." Rev. 11:37
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Old 07-10-2009, 09:42 AM
 
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"Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all." Rev. 11:37
It's Daniel 11:37. This is part of what the priests in Jerusalem read to Alexander the Great. They had dressed in white and lined both sides of the road into the city to welcome him. Accepted and reading in their prophecies that he would be successful he left the Jews unharmed.

If applied to a theoretical antichrist appearing in the transition into the Feast of Tabernacles Age when earth will be overseen by immortal saints, it suggests the antichrist would be a homosexual. That idea opens more understanding of the present "Raging waves of the sea, foaming out their own shame; wandering stars, to whom is reserved the blackness of darkness for ever." (Jude 13)
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Old 07-10-2009, 08:44 PM
 
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Thanks for pointing that out, James. Google goofed big time.
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Old 07-10-2009, 08:44 PM
 
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actually the next giant prediction is 2012 oct and its not christian at all.
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