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Old 05-11-2009, 01:14 PM
 
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If Eternal Torment is True, then the God of the Bible is one of the most diabolical being in the universe.

He, according to Christendom, created a place called Hell.

He also chose who would be saved before they were even born. He gave faith to those chosen so they could believe. The others He blinded, hardened their hearts and stopped up their ears and had His Son talk to them in parables do they could not understand so they would not be saved.

Therefore He brought into existence billions and billions of humans knowing full well in advance they would not be chosen to be saved. Therefore He brought them into existence for the sole purpose of eternally torturing them through no fault of their own.

This is the God of Christendom.

I sure am glad the true God of the Bible is different! (see 1 Timothy 2:4-6 and 4:10,11)!
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Old 05-11-2009, 01:31 PM
 
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If Eternal Torment is True, then the God of the Bible is one of the most diabolical being in the universe.

He, according to Christendom, created a place called Hell.

He also chose who would be saved before they were even born. He gave faith to those chosen so they could believe. The others He blinded, hardened their hearts and stopped up their ears and had His Son talk to them in parables do they could not understand so they would not be saved.

Therefore He brought into existence billions and billions of humans knowing full well in advance they would not be chosen to be saved. Therefore He brought them into existence for the sole purpose of eternally torturing them through no fault of their own.

This is the God of Christendom.

I sure am glad the true God of the Bible is different! (see 1 Timothy 2:4-6 and 4:10,11)!

Dude I would think long and hard about the things you say, you should take the utmost care rather than loosely flings words about God you don't believe in. You may not agree with it but you may be wrong and IF you are wrong then by your own words you condemn yourself because you hate God.
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Old 05-11-2009, 01:32 PM
 
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I sure am glad the true God of the Bible is different! (see 1 Timothy 2:4-6 and 4:10,11)!
Amen, Eusebius. God bless.
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Old 05-11-2009, 01:33 PM
 
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Dude be careful what you say. You may not agree with it but you may be wrong and IF you are wrong then by your own words you condemn yourself because you hate God.
Fundy, who do YOU say that He is?
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Old 05-11-2009, 01:34 PM
 
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Fundy, who do YOU say that He is?
Elmer...I would never call God names regardless if I thought my doctrine was right because I could be wrong and what does that say about my love and trust for God. I would never, never go there.
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Old 05-11-2009, 01:43 PM
 
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Elmer...I would never call God names regardless if I thought my doctrine was right because I could be wrong and what does that say about my love and trust for God. I would never, never go there.
Good answer, just testing you.
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Old 05-11-2009, 02:00 PM
 
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If Eternal Torment is True, then the God of the Bible is one of the most diabolical being in the universe.

He, according to Christendom, created a place called Hell.

He also chose who would be saved before they were even born. He gave faith to those chosen so they could believe. The others He blinded, hardened their hearts and stopped up their ears and had His Son talk to them in parables do they could not understand so they would not be saved.

Therefore He brought into existence billions and billions of humans knowing full well in advance they would not be chosen to be saved. Therefore He brought them into existence for the sole purpose of eternally torturing them through no fault of their own.

This is the God of Christendom.
Amen, that is not the God of the bible. That is the God they invented about 1500 yrs ago.

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I sure am glad the true God of the Bible is different! (see 1 Timothy 2:4-6 and 4:10,11)!
The whole world is glad of that Euse.
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Old 05-11-2009, 02:05 PM
 
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Fundy, are you going to speak with platitudes about the liar and murderer Satan, just in case ET is true and you have to go there to be his jail bride?
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Old 05-11-2009, 02:10 PM
 
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If Eternal Torment is True, then the God of the Bible is one of the most diabolical being in the universe.

He, according to Christendom, created a place called Hell.

He also chose who would be saved before they were even born. He gave faith to those chosen so they could believe. The others He blinded, hardened their hearts and stopped up their ears and had His Son talk to them in parables do they could not understand so they would not be saved.

Therefore He brought into existence billions and billions of humans knowing full well in advance they would not be chosen to be saved. Therefore He brought them into existence for the sole purpose of eternally torturing them through no fault of their own.

This is the God of Christendom.

I sure am glad the true God of the Bible is different! (see 1 Timothy 2:4-6 and 4:10,11)!
Not all Christians believe in double-predestination, which is what you are describing. As far as I am aware, this belief is only shared by Calvinists <though Fundy stated in another thread to me that not all Calvinists believe this>. I am not aware of any other theology that believes that God creates a person to damn them with no chance of salvation. The Calvinists get this from one part of the book of Romans, but I believe they take it out of context and misunderstand its meaning.
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Old 05-11-2009, 02:16 PM
 
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If Eternal Torment is True, then the God of the Bible is one of the most diabolical being in the universe.

He, according to Christendom, created a place called Hell.

He also chose who would be saved before they were even born. He gave faith to those chosen so they could believe. The others He blinded, hardened their hearts and stopped up their ears and had His Son talk to them in parables do they could not understand so they would not be saved.

Therefore He brought into existence billions and billions of humans knowing full well in advance they would not be chosen to be saved. Therefore He brought them into existence for the sole purpose of eternally torturing them through no fault of their own.

This is the God of Christendom.

I sure am glad the true God of the Bible is different! (see 1 Timothy 2:4-6 and 4:10,11)!
(Luke 13:34-35)

34"O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you who kill the prophets and stone those sent to you, how often I have longed to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, but you were not willing!....."

"How many times Jesus wanted to embrace them, but they never allowed Him to do that. I mean that's talking about the sinner's unwillingness, the raw resistance to the love of God that is characteristic of the sinner. And that makes Jesus weep. And He's God. So, you know, when scripture says in the Old Testament that "I find no pleasure in the death of the wicked," that's the same kind of attitude." God does not force, God is not cruel, He wants us to love Him but we won't. Just like He turned over the Jews to their enemies so He will with the individual with the defiant will.

Pastor John Macarthur

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