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Old 06-08-2009, 01:06 PM
 
Location: Pilot Point, TX
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1. No 2. No . 3.0

If you would have asked me 10 years ago the same question my answer would have been yes to all three questions.
20 years here, but ditto.
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Old 06-08-2009, 01:28 PM
 
Location: NC
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I would have also said yes 20 years ago. God bless.
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Old 06-08-2009, 02:08 PM
 
Location: New England
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After the Lord showed me that Eternal Hell is the greatest lie ever told , i did not openly receive it , but i knew deep down it was correct and whatsmore after seeing it so blatantly obvious in the scipture i gave up the fight.
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Old 06-08-2009, 08:26 PM
 
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The reason eternal torment is a just punishment is because an individual has so blatently rejected the most prized possession the Father has to give to a lost mankind: the death of His Precious Son. How can such a cosmic atrocity be balanced in God's scales of justice except by eternal torment?
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Old 06-08-2009, 09:05 PM
 
Location: Out of Florida........
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And by hell, I am talking about the belief that people will be separated from God forever, for eternity, and will be tortured for eternity with no end. NO HOPE of being reconciled to God. ever. No hope of their carnal man being burned off and being reconciled to God.

Please answer each question, honestly if you will:

1. Do you fear that any of your loved ones will go there?
2. Do you fear that your neighbors will go there?
3. Do you fear strangers going there? What about people you can't seem to like or people you have ill feelings towards, famoust people even, whatever...?

Yes, to all the above.....that's why we do what we do, tell TRUTH, but really, how much time to you need to "get it right"? What, another 35 years? Don't know if we have that much time! That's why, TODAY is the day of salvation! Right?
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Old 06-09-2009, 12:04 AM
 
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The reason eternal torment is a just punishment is because an individual has so blatently rejected the most prized possession the Father has to give to a lost mankind: the death of His Precious Son. How can such a cosmic atrocity be balanced in God's scales of justice except by eternal torment?
By.......loving his enemies?
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Old 06-09-2009, 01:41 AM
 
Location: Seward, Alaska
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"Yes" to all 3 questions.

Why do I believe that? Because the Bible tells us:

Matthew 7:13-14

13Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:

14Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.


I not going to venture a guess at "numbers", but I think the majority of people today are not going to enter heaven...


Bud
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Old 06-09-2009, 03:54 AM
 
Location: New England
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I not going to venture a guess at "numbers", but I think the majority of people today are not going to enter heaven...

Sounds like you think the devil is God , because he is more able to destroy life than God is able to save .
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Old 06-09-2009, 04:42 AM
 
Location: land of quail, bunnies, and red tail hawks
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Sounds like you think the devil is God , because he is more able to destroy life than God is able to save .
I think you give the devil too much credit. The devil can only kill our temporal bodies. Only God has the power to destroy both the body and soul in hell. (Matthew 10:28)

Furthermore, God's judgment for the individual will be based on the individual's own actions. No one will be able to blame the devil.

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I answer yes to all three, but with a stipulation. Based upon Matthew 10:28, I acknowledge the possibility that God will completely destroy both the body and the soul (in hell!). However, I'm not going to build doctrine based on one verse.

I do reject the doctrine of universal reconciliation based on many verses that have been presented by many people in many other threads. I'm not going to argue it.
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Old 06-09-2009, 05:28 AM
 
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Based upon Matthew 10:28, I acknowledge the possibility that God will completely destroy both the body and the soul (in hell!). However, I'm not going to build doctrine based on one verse.
The strongest word for destruction in the New Covenant is apollumi, and linked with apollumi is olethros. Are you aware of the fact that both terrible words are linked with salvation at the end. Yup, it is so!

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I do reject the doctrine of universal reconciliation based on many verses that have been presented by many people in many other threads. I'm not going to argue it.
I do accept the wonderful expression of our Father regarding the restitution of all things as spoken by the mouths of the prophets and priests of the Most High God.

"He has made known to us the secret of His will. And this is in harmony with God's merciful purpose for the government of the world when the times are ripe for it--the purpose which He has cherished in His own mind of restoring the whole creation to find its one Head in Christ; yes, things in heaven and things on earth, to find their one Head in Him. And you too, who in Him were made heirs, having been chosen beforehand in accordance with the intention of Him whose might carries out in everything the design of His own will."
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