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I'll post these words from the apostle Paul, HotinAz.
1 Corinthians 15:16-28
16. For if the dead are not raised, not even Christ has been raised;17. and if Christ has not been raised, your faith is worthless; you are still in your sins.18. Then those also who have fallen asleep in Christ have perished.19. If we have hoped in Christ in this life only, we are of all men most to be pitied.20. But now Christ has been raised from the dead, the first fruits of those who are asleep.21. For since by a man came death, by a man also came the resurrection of the dead.22.For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ all will be made alive.23. But each in his own order: Christ the first fruits, after that those who are Christ's at His coming,24. then comes the end, when He hands over the kingdom to the God and Father, when He has abolished all rule and all authority and power.25. For He must reign until He has put all His enemies under His feet.26. The last enemy that will be abolished is death.27. For He has put all things in subjection under His feet. But when He says, "All things are put in subjection," it is evident that He is excepted who put all things in subjection to Him.28. When all things are subjected to Him, then the Son Himself also will be subjected to the One who subjected all things to Him, so that God may be all in all.
Ephesians 1: 5-10
"He predestined us to adoption as sons through Jesus Christ to Himself, according to the kind intention of His will, to the praise of the glory of His grace which He freely bestowed on us in the Beloved. In Him we have redemption through His blood, the forgiveness of our trespasses, according to the riches of His grace, which He lavished upon us. In all wisdom and insight He made known to us the mystery of His will, according to His kind intention which He purposed in Him with a view to an administration suitable to the fulness of the times, that is the *summing up of all things in Christ, things in the heavens, and things upon the earth."
*summing up=anakephalaioomai=to gather together again in one, to reunite under one head as in Eph. 1 (mid. voice) (Hebrew/Greek Key Word Study)
Romans 8:18-22
18. For I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory that is to be revealed to us.19. For the anxious longing of the creation waits eagerly for the revealing of the sons of God.20. For the creation was subjected to futility, not willingly, but because of Him who subjected it, in *hope21. that the creation itself also will be set free from its slavery to corruption into the freedom of the glory of the children of God.
*hope=elpis=expectation
One day God will be all in all. God bless.
All Gods elect will be made alive, but not the devil and his children..this is their portion..matt 25:
41Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
The devil and his angels werent elected or chosen in christ..
Do you believe God is omnipresent? If so, He already is 'ALL in ALL', for nothing would exist without Him. And yes, I believe the fingerprint of God is present everywhere, in everything.
God is omnipresent, yet He is not all in all, HotinAz. The fingerprint of God is present everywhere and in everything yet He is not all in all. According to the scriptures (1 Cor. 15) it is a future event. What do the words, "will be", "so that" mean?
1 Corinthians 15:16-28
16. For if the dead are not raised, not even Christ has been raised;17. and if Christ has not been raised, your faith is worthless; you are still in your sins.18. Then those also who have fallen asleep in Christ have perished.19. If we have hoped in Christ in this life only, we are of all men most to be pitied.20. But now Christ has been raised from the dead, the first fruits of those who are asleep.21. For since by a man came death, by a man also came the resurrection of the dead.22.For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ all will be made alive.23. But each in his own order: Christ the first fruits, after that those who are Christ's at His coming,24. then comes the end, when He hands over the kingdom to the God and Father, when He has abolished all rule and all authority and power.25. For He must reign until He has put all His enemies under His feet.26. The last enemy that will be abolished is death.27. For He has put all things in subjection under His feet. But when He says, "All things are put in subjection," it is evident that He is excepted who put all things in subjection to Him.28. When all things are subjected to Him, then the Son Himself also will be subjected to the One who subjected all things to Him, so that God may be all in all.
Ephesians 1: 5-10
"He predestined us to adoption as sons through Jesus Christ to Himself, according to the kind intention of His will, to the praise of the glory of His grace which He freely bestowed on us in the Beloved. In Him we have redemption through His blood, the forgiveness of our trespasses, according to the riches of His grace, which He lavished upon us. In all wisdom and insight He made known to us the mystery of His will, according to His kind intention which He purposed in Him with a view to an administration suitable to the fulness of the times, that is the *summing up of all things in Christ, things in the heavens, and things upon the earth."
*summing up=anakephalaioomai=to gather together again in one, to reunite under one head as in Eph. 1 (mid. voice) (Hebrew/Greek Key Word Study)
Romans 8:18-22
18. For I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory that is to be revealed to us.19. For the anxious longing of the creation waits eagerly for the revealing of the sons of God.20. For the creation was subjected to futility, not willingly, but because of Him who subjected it, in *hope21. that the creation itself also will be set free from its slavery to corruption into the freedom of the glory of the children of God.
Well, since you keep posting these same scriptures over and over and over again,,,why not let us take a look at them, line upon linbe, precept upon precept, and let the Spirit lead the Way....ok?
1 Corinthians 15:16-28
16. For if the dead are not raised, not even Christ has been raised;
Which means the ressurections have started taking place, right?
17. and if Christ has not been raised, your faith is worthless; you are still in your sins.
For without our High Priest sprinkling His Precious Blood upon the Mercy Seat, there is no atonement, right?
18. Then those also who have fallen asleep in Christ have perished.
Again, see answer above..
19. If we have hoped in Christ in this life only, we are of all men most to be pitied.
Why? Because their faith resides, still, on a promise if Christ is dead in the ground still.
20. But now Christ has been raised from the dead, the first fruit of those who are asleep
Christ is the firstborn of the dead, or the first fruit.
.21. For since by a man came death, by a man also came the resurrection of the dead.
Self explanitory.
22.For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ all will be made alive.
The "be made alive", is akin to a seed sprouting new plants. The seed dies in the sense it has returned to the ground, but out of the ground, life begins anew. Read ALL the references to bearing fruit,,or vines,,or trees. 23. But each in his own order: Christ the first fruits, after that those who are Christ's at His coming, Each in his own order, right? Christ the first fruit, right? Then those who ARE Christ's at His coming, right? Well, WHAT ABOUT THE REST OF HUMANITY, who are not His?
24. then comes the end, when He hands over the kingdom to the God and Father, when He has abolished all rule and all authority and power.
Then the END. Wait, you say there is more going on after that??
25. For He must reign until He has put all His enemies under His feet.
Who are His enemies?
26. The last enemy that will be abolished is death.
That is the last enemy, but who are the rest of them?
27. For He has put all things in subjection under His feet. But when He says, "All things are put in subjection," it is evident that He is excepted who put all things in subjection to Him.
This is Kingship status,,who is reigning NOW putting this earth as His Footstool.
28. When all things are subjected to Him, then the Son Himself also will be subjected to the One who subjected all things to Him, so that God may be all in all.
Now there is no more Kings, nor anything else for that matter resembling this earth, for God will be in all, at once, at all times, manifested through His Sons, in immense Glory.
Now, where do I read that this pertains to even the lost or the enemies of Christ? So if it doesn't, then how is UR able to hold water, except maybe you'll say this is only an age, even though it clearly says the END.
Hi, the end here means the last in a series. The last group will be made alive when He has abolished all rule, power and authority. The last enemy is death. When death is abolished all will be made alive. The resurrections have not started taking place. All who have died are in the grave, except for Jesus who has already been raised. God bless.
Last edited by ShanaBrown; 06-24-2009 at 11:20 PM..
God is omnipresent, yet He is not all in all, HotinAz. The fingerprint of God is present everywhere and in everything yet He is not all in all. According to the scriptures (1 Cor. 15) it is a future event. What do the words, "will be", "so that" mean?
1 Corinthians 15:16-28
16. For if the dead are not raised, not even Christ has been raised;17. and if Christ has not been raised, your faith is worthless; you are still in your sins.18. Then those also who have fallen asleep in Christ have perished.19. If we have hoped in Christ in this life only, we are of all men most to be pitied.20. But now Christ has been raised from the dead, the first fruits of those who are asleep.21. For since by a man came death, by a man also came the resurrection of the dead.22.For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ all will be made alive.23. But each in his own order: Christ the first fruits, after that those who are Christ's at His coming,24. then comes the end, when He hands over the kingdom to the God and Father, when He has abolished all rule and all authority and power.25. For He must reign until He has put all His enemies under His feet.26. The last enemy that will be abolished is death.27. For He has put all things in subjection under His feet. But when He says, "All things are put in subjection," it is evident that He is excepted who put all things in subjection to Him.28. When all things are subjected to Him, then the Son Himself also will be subjected to the One who subjected all things to Him, so that God may be all in all.
Ephesians 1: 5-10
"He predestined us to adoption as sons through Jesus Christ to Himself, according to the kind intention of His will, to the praise of the glory of His grace which He freely bestowed on us in the Beloved. In Him we have redemption through His blood, the forgiveness of our trespasses, according to the riches of His grace, which He lavished upon us. In all wisdom and insight He made known to us the mystery of His will, according to His kind intention which He purposed in Him with a view to an administration suitable to the fulness of the times, that is the *summing up of all things in Christ, things in the heavens, and things upon the earth."
*summing up=anakephalaioomai=to gather together again in one, to reunite under one head as in Eph. 1 (mid. voice) (Hebrew/Greek Key Word Study)
Romans 8:18-22
18. For I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory that is to be revealed to us.19. For the anxious longing of the creation waits eagerly for the revealing of the sons of God.20. For the creation was subjected to futility, not willingly, but because of Him who subjected it, in *hope21. that the creation itself also will be set free from its slavery to corruption into the freedom of the glory of the children of God.
Hi, the end means the last in a series. The last group will be made alive when He has abolished all rule, power and authority. The last enemy is death. When death is abolished all will be made alive. The resurrections have not started taking place. All who have died are in the grave, except for Jesus who has already been raised. God bless.
Here yet we are again skipping parts of the Word to make doctrines fit...
Matthew 27:52
And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose, and came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many.
Sounds like there were more Shana. What shall we call these people, other than first fruits?
Well, since you keep posting these same scriptures over and over and over again,,,why not let us take a look at them, line upon linbe, precept upon precept, and let the Spirit lead the Way....ok?
1 Corinthians 15:16-28
16. For if the dead are not raised, not even Christ has been raised;
Which means the ressurections have started taking place, right?
17. and if Christ has not been raised, your faith is worthless; you are still in your sins.
For without our High Priest sprinkling His Precious Blood upon the Mercy Seat, there is no atonement, right?
18. Then those also who have fallen asleep in Christ have perished.
Again, see answer above..
19. If we have hoped in Christ in this life only, we are of all men most to be pitied.
Why? Because their faith resides, still, on a promise if Christ is dead in the ground still.
20. But now Christ has been raised from the dead, the first fruit of those who are asleep
Christ is the firstborn of the dead, or the first fruit.
.21. For since by a man came death, by a man also came the resurrection of the dead.
Self explanitory.
22.For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ all will be made alive.
The "be made alive", is akin to a seed sprouting new plants. The seed dies in the sense it has returned to the ground, but out of the ground, life begins anew. Read ALL the references to bearing fruit,,or vines,,or trees. 23. But each in his own order: Christ the first fruits, after that those who are Christ's at His coming, Each in his own order, right? Christ the first fruit, right? Then those who ARE Christ's at His coming, right? Well, WHAT ABOUT THE REST OF HUMANITY, who are not His?
24. then comes the end, when He hands over the kingdom to the God and Father, when He has abolished all rule and all authority and power.
Then the END. Wait, you say there is more going on after that??
25. For He must reign until He has put all His enemies under His feet.
Who are His enemies?
26. The last enemy that will be abolished is death.
That is the last enemy, but who are the rest of them?
27. For He has put all things in subjection under His feet. But when He says, "All things are put in subjection," it is evident that He is excepted who put all things in subjection to Him.
This is Kingship status,,who is reigning NOW putting this earth as His Footstool.
28. When all things are subjected to Him, then the Son Himself also will be subjected to the One who subjected all things to Him, so that God may be all in all.
Now there is no more Kings, nor anything else for that matter resembling this earth, for God will be in all, at once, at all times, manifested through His Sons, in immense Glory.
Now, where do I read that this pertains to even the lost or the enemies of Christ? So if it doesn't, then how is UR able to hold water, except maybe you'll say this is only an age, even though it clearly says the END.
Since you keep posting the same scriptures, I shall post mine,,ok? Where is this going??
That they came out of the graves does not mean that they were resurrected with immortal bodies. God bless.
For as in Adam all die,so also in Christ all will be made alive.23. But each in his own order1 Corinthians 15:16-28
16. For if the dead are not raised, not even Christ has been raised;17. and if Christ has not been raised, your faith is worthless; you are still in your sins.18. Then those also who have fallen asleep in Christ have perished.19. If we have hoped in Christ in this life only, we are of all men most to be pitied.20. But now Christ has been raised from the dead, the first fruits of those who are asleep.21. For since by a man came death, by a man also came the resurrection of the dead.22.For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ all will be made alive.23. But each in his own order: Christ the first fruits, after that those who are Christ's at His coming,24. then comes the end, when He hands over the kingdom to the God and Father, when He has abolished all rule and all authority and power.25. For He must reign until He has put all His enemies under His feet.26. The last enemy that will be abolished is death.27. For He has put all things in subjection under His feet. But when He says, "All things are put in subjection," it is evident that He is excepted who put all things in subjection to Him.28. When all things are subjected to Him, then the Son Himself also will be subjected to the One who subjected all things to Him, so that God may be all in all.
Ephesians 1: 5-10
"He predestined us to adoption as sons through Jesus Christ to Himself, according to the kind intention of His will, to the praise of the glory of His grace which He freely bestowed on us in the Beloved. In Him we have redemption through His blood, the forgiveness of our trespasses, according to the riches of His grace, which He lavished upon us. In all wisdom and insight He made known to us the mystery of His will, according to His kind intention which He purposed in Him with a view to an administration suitable to the fulness of the times, that is the *summing up of all things in Christ, things in the heavens, and things upon the earth."
*summing up=anakephalaioomai=to gather together again in one, to reunite under one head as in Eph. 1 (mid. voice) (Hebrew/Greek Key Word Study)
Romans 8:18-22
18. For I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory that is to be revealed to us.19. For the anxious longing of the creation waits eagerly for the revealing of the sons of God.20. For the creation was subjected to futility, not willingly, but because of Him who subjected it, in *hope21. that the creation itself also will be set free from its slavery to corruption into the freedom of the glory of the children of God.
God is omnipresent, yet He is not all in all, HotinAz. The fingerprint of God is present everywhere and in everything yet He is not all in all. According to the scriptures (1 Cor. 15) it is a future event. What do the words, "will be", "so that" mean?
1 Corinthians 15:16-28
16. For if the dead are not raised, not even Christ has been raised;17. and if Christ has not been raised, your faith is worthless; you are still in your sins.18. Then those also who have fallen asleep in Christ have perished.19. If we have hoped in Christ in this life only, we are of all men most to be pitied.20. But now Christ has been raised from the dead, the first fruits of those who are asleep.21. For since by a man came death, by a man also came the resurrection of the dead.22.For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ all will be made alive.23. But each in his own order: Christ the first fruits, after that those who are Christ's at His coming,24. then comes the end, when He hands over the kingdom to the God and Father, when He has abolished all rule and all authority and power.25. For He must reign until He has put all His enemies under His feet.26. The last enemy that will be abolished is death.27. For He has put all things in subjection under His feet. But when He says, "All things are put in subjection," it is evident that He is excepted who put all things in subjection to Him.28. When all things are subjected to Him, then the Son Himself also will be subjected to the One who subjected all things to Him, so that God may be all in all.
Ephesians 1: 5-10
"He predestined us to adoption as sons through Jesus Christ to Himself, according to the kind intention of His will, to the praise of the glory of His grace which He freely bestowed on us in the Beloved. In Him we have redemption through His blood, the forgiveness of our trespasses, according to the riches of His grace, which He lavished upon us. In all wisdom and insight He made known to us the mystery of His will, according to His kind intention which He purposed in Him with a view to an administration suitable to the fulness of the times, that is the *summing up of all things in Christ, things in the heavens, and things upon the earth."
*summing up=anakephalaioomai=to gather together again in one, to reunite under one head as in Eph. 1 (mid. voice) (Hebrew/Greek Key Word Study)
Romans 8:18-22
18. For I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory that is to be revealed to us.19. For the anxious longing of the creation waits eagerly for the revealing of the sons of God.20. For the creation was subjected to futility, not willingly, but because of Him who subjected it, in *hope21. that the creation itself also will be set free from its slavery to corruption into the freedom of the glory of the children of God.
*hope=elpis=expectation
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