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Old 07-06-2009, 02:59 PM
 
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You are still looking for an earthly, observable kingdom.
Not sure where you got that from? I agree the Kingdom is now for believers, but it will come into full effect in the next age.


(Sorry to horribly derail your thread pcamps)
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Old 07-06-2009, 03:02 PM
 
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Not sure where you got that from? I agree the Kingdom is now for believers, but it will come into full effect in the next age.


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No problem
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Old 07-06-2009, 03:03 PM
 
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Not sure where you got that from? I agree the Kingdom is now for believers, but it will come into full effect in the next age.


(Sorry to horribly derail your thread pcamps)
I got it from tour statement of one day all men will walk in peace and harmony. Sounds like the Futurist's teaching on a 1000 year earthly Millennium. The kingdom is not earthly, but heavenly. We are now in the age of the kingdom. The kingdom does not have two separate ages.
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Old 07-06-2009, 03:06 PM
 
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I believe that there will be an "earthly Miliennium". The word for "within" in the Luke 17th chapter also means "in the midst of". The kingdom of God is not an earthly kingdom, but it is on the earth. God bless.
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Old 07-06-2009, 03:13 PM
 
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I believe that there will be an "earthly Miliennium". The word for "within" in the Luke 17th chapter also means "in the midst of". The kingdom of God is not an earthly kingdom, but it is on the earth. God bless.
The kingdom does not come with OBSERVATION (Luke 17:20). How can you reconcile a kingdom ON EARTH (Observable) with Christ's statement?
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Old 07-06-2009, 03:18 PM
 
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The kingdom does not come with observation , but it is present in this earth in us.
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Old 07-06-2009, 03:19 PM
 
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the kingdom does not come with observation , but it is present in this earth in us.
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I agree
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Old 07-06-2009, 03:31 PM
 
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Hi, I don't believe that we are to be looking/searching for a physical kingdom in this age. It is not kingdom that is like a physical kingdom like we see today, but it is on the earth and I do believe that there will be an oncoming age of the Miliennium reign of Jesus, in which He will be subjecting all to Himself. The scriptures speak of at least 2 ages to come. God bless.
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Old 07-06-2009, 03:39 PM
 
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Hi, I don't believe that we are to be looking/searching for a physical kingdom in this age. It is not kingdom that is like a physical kingdom like we see today, but it is on the earth and I do believe that there will be an oncoming age of the Miliennium reign of Jesus, in which He will be subjecting all to Himself. God bless.
Dear Shana,

My point is that if it comes to earth in visible form it is OBSERVABLE. The Jews were looking for an OBSERVABLE kingdom, and many missed the kingdom because it is heavenly and spiritual. The kingdom is fulfilled in CHRIST and his CHURCH! The teaching of a future MILLENNIUM by most exalts fleshly ISRAEL to a place of prominence over all nations. In Christ there is neither JEW or GENTILE. All distinctions are done away with in CHRIST. This may not be what you believe (CONCERNING A MILLENNIUM), but it is a common teaching in the church today. People are looking for and expecting a FUTURE, OBSERVABLE KINGDOM, and many are missing the reality of the KINGDOM TODAY. I do not believe in a FUTURE, OBSERVABLE kingdom on EARTH in the FUTURE, because Jesus said it does not COME WITH OBSERVATION (Luke 17:20).
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Old 07-06-2009, 03:42 PM
 
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Thank you for sharing, jeapostle. I just shared my belief on the subject and the initial post was to the reference that many will be thrust out of the kingdom. My belief is that those who are thrust out will eventually enter when God becomes all in all (1 Cor. 15) There wll come a time when Jesus will deliver up the kingdom after He has abolished all rule, power, and authority so that God may be all in all. God bless.
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