Question (women, church, sinners, Bible)

[CelticViking]

This may be a bit egotistical...i dont know...as i have mentioned on another thread this girl that i have been dating has been with 6 or so guys...where as i have chosen to wait(however i have done things with girls that i probably shouldnt of) We are trying to have a Christian relationship.....none the less...

i cant help but think that she has done that, drank a lot, etc...and now leads a different life...but still had a upbringing in the church

i grew up in the church, tried to live a decent life, still sinned of course but didnt do "that kind of stuff"

not trying to list sins from not so bad to worst...but...

Of course I know i am a sinner...but i just cant help but think why couldnt i have gone out drank, had sex, done all that stuff, and then came back later on, repented, and turned my life around...

Will I be rewarded more then her? What is the point of living a whole life of Godliness when you can mess up a portion of your life and then "change" and thats it...

Now I am very thankful for Salvation and consider myself a Strong Christian but do struggle with things...

I know some answers will be well who knows what may of happened to you? or you did the right thing...

but what is the difference in Gods eyes from someone who had premarital sex, drank, did drugs, and partied all the time...to someone who grew up in the Church, tried to do the right things, read the Bible, etc...

I guess sometimes honestly i think maybe i should of just had sex in highschool when i had the opprotunities or maybe gone and partied and had fun...

anyone understand my frustration or have any input?

thanks

[Fundamentalist]

Oh my friend. I have done those things and much worse. If I could do it all over again I would. You have no clue how envious I am of you because you don't have the memories, flashbacks to constantly battle.

[CelticViking]

Thanks for the response...

are you sayin you would do the things you did over again? or was that a misprint?

[Fundamentalist]

Originally Posted by CelticViking

Thanks for the response...

are you sayin you would do the things you did over again? or was that a misprint?

well it is 20/20 hindsight. I was just like you. I was the son of Pastor wanted to do everything right and pleasing to God or my parents, then one day realized in my own "mind" that I was the oldest virgin in the world so I decided to get wild; Satan helped out because he put the right people in my life.
Trust me...trust me...trust me...it isn't worth it and you will regret it!! Stay the course and you will have an awesome gift for your wife on your wedding night. The bible is so right about such things.

[CelticViking]

Thanks a lot...and see my friend the point is that you are still a wonderful person who God truly loves! Does it really make a difference? As far as God being any extra mad because you decided to lose your virginity, i dont think so...maybe with other things like marriage, possibly, i dont know...

I think one thing that makes it worse for me is i struggle with porn from time to time(See im a sinner just like everyone else) and the way that they portray the women and scenes and what not even makes it more frustrating.


and to be clear i am NOT meaning to belittle those who have done bad things in the past like drinking wild sex, etc and changed there lives...we are ALL sinners, and I sin just as much as the next person...It is just a bit frustrating at the moment...

[Fundamentalist]

Originally Posted by CelticViking

Thanks a lot...and see my friend the point is that you are still a wonderful person who God truly loves! Does it really make a difference? As far as God being any extra mad because you decided to lose your virginity, i dont think so...maybe with other things like marriage, possibly, i dont know...

I think one thing that makes it worse for me is i struggle with porn from time to time(See im a sinner just like everyone else) and the way that they portray the women and scenes and what not even makes it more frustrating.


and to be clear i am NOT meaning to belittle those who have done bad things in the past like drinking wild sex, etc and changed there lives...we are ALL sinners, and I sin just as much as the next person...It is just a bit frustrating at the moment...

I know it can be frustrating. You feel like you are on the outside looking in, people joke around in which you have no clue, things are talked about what happens in the act of sex in which you are doing your best to hide that perplexed look. The funny part is I never had problems with porno; never cared for it but strip clubs and strippers did it to me-I have a thing for bad girls, it doesn't stop there it leads you down a path that by only God's grace you will escape unscathed whether it be mentally or physically (if you know what I mean)

The wonderful news is God still loves you but the problem is the person you become when you go down that dark tunnel.

[Phazelwood]

Originally Posted by CelticViking

) We are trying to have a Christian relationship.....none the less...

No reason to stop now

i cant help but think that she has done that, drank a lot, etc...and now leads a different life...but still had a upbringing in the church

i grew up in the church, tried to live a decent life, still sinned of course but didnt do "that kind of stuff"

not trying to list sins from not so bad to worst...but...

You're seeing a glimpse of what causes many problems in how we view one another. "I am a sinner, but I haven't done that." Seriously I am not trying to insult you in any way, it is those subtle thoughts that lead to the deception that your a bit "cleaner" and it will negatively affect what you can build upon with your relationship here.

Of course I know i am a sinner...but i just cant help but think why couldnt i have gone out drank, had sex, done all that stuff, and then came back later on, repented, and turned my life around...

But of what you did do, you did do them and have repented of some.
What happens is that when we are poor in spirit, we grasp at things realizing that the reason we did not do those things was not enough.
Continue to seek and rather than whirling around the reasoning you have not done those things so far, seek something that is truly inspiring. I cannot determine that for your life.

Will I be rewarded more then her? What is the point of living a whole life of Godliness when you can mess up a portion of your life and then "change" and thats it...

Well, is it godliness that you lived your life for or a false image that religion asserts to you?

Now I am very thankful for Salvation and consider myself a Strong Christian but do struggle with things...

Welcome to life, come on in.

I know some answers will be well who knows what may of happened to you? or you did the right thing...

Answers that are of little value. What will you do now and why?

but what is the difference in Gods eyes from someone who had premarital sex, drank, did drugs, and partied all the time...to someone who grew up in the Church, tried to do the right things, read the Bible, etc...

Nothing! God has prepared the way for all of our routes, we sometimes take the destructive road getting there, sometimes we can find the narrow road. Live your life and be honest about who you are. Do not allow people that think they know God tell you what God thinks of you, stay as far away from them as you can possibly get. They will destroy your spirit.

I guess sometimes honestly i think maybe i should of just had sex in highschool when i had the opprotunities or maybe gone and partied and had fun...

Past regret will only fuel more. Find value in what you do and live it.

anyone understand my frustration or have any input?

Been there, similar situation. Do the best you can now because you CAN. Sometimes doing the right thing is good enough. Guess what, no one but you really get to decide whats right for you, do not let anyone deceive you otherwise, no matter how big their smile is.

[Ironmaw1776]

Originally Posted by CelticViking

Thanks a lot...and see my friend the point is that you are still a wonderful person who God truly loves! Does it really make a difference? As far as God being any extra mad because you decided to lose your virginity, i dont think so...maybe with other things like marriage, possibly, i dont know...

I think one thing that makes it worse for me is i struggle with porn from time to time(See im a sinner just like everyone else) and the way that they portray the women and scenes and what not even makes it more frustrating.


and to be clear i am NOT meaning to belittle those who have done bad things in the past like drinking wild sex, etc and changed there lives...we are ALL sinners, and I sin just as much as the next person...It is just a bit frustrating at the moment...

Kudos friend ... So far so Good. You Seem like a very honest and genuine human being. You sound young as well ... Give yourself time and youll make plenty of mistakes. I don't in any way promote or endorse a sinful lifestyle, but we are here for the sole purpose of learning from our mistakes and those of others as well if we pay attention. I was raised a Christian, my father was a baptist minister who later changed into Non denom. ... I have done many things. I am not proud of them but i have learned allot and can easily identify with the wicked heart of man. I also understand the power of sin over peoples lives saved or otherwise. I drink from time to time socially, i have sexual frustrations and i must resist temptation every day and i'm getting to be an old man.The older you get the more gray things become in every respect. Things aren't so black and white as many would have us believe, especially not in modern society. Don't be too hard on yourself ... And don't look down your nose because one day you may end up running away from God just like i did when my brother died. You just have to trust Gods patience and keep learning.

[Oakback]

I have tasted everything this world has to offer.

And it gave me indigestion.

[alanMolstad]

Originally Posted by CelticViking

Will I be rewarded more then her?

Yes....

your Father sees all, and remembers each cross you have carried for trusting in His name...