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Old 10-12-2009, 10:06 AM
 
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Uh, guys?

June realizes that this may be somewhat of a "radical idea" but could be try and have a bit more of a civilized debate here?

A little less insulting and attacking of one another, and a little more discussion as regards the OP?

Thanks!
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Old 10-12-2009, 10:10 AM
 
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Well what i get from His post is honesty and being truthful about the pain felt if you believe 100% your loved ones are in Eternal Torment .

I can also testify that there has been a change for the better in my life since i believed in Universal Reconciliation. I found rather than seeing sin , i see how God sees someone , which is not with righteous anger how you Fundy's seem to think He sees the lost.
He was not righteously angry with you when you were not in faith , no He drew you with bands of love that hopefully led you to repentance .
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Old 10-12-2009, 10:12 AM
 
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Uh, guys?

June realizes that this may be somewhat of a "radical idea" but could be try and have a bit more of a civilized debate here?

A little less insulting and attacking of one another, and a little more discussion as regards the OP?

Thanks!
June did I attack anyone? Please state how? and define "attack" pleeeease because I don't want to get in trouble. Thank you
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Old 10-12-2009, 10:14 AM
 
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Well what i get from His post is honesty and being truthful about the pain felt if you believe 100% your loved ones are in Eternal Torment .

I can also testify that there has been a change for the better in my life since i believed in Universal Reconciliation. I found rather than seeing sin , i see how God sees someone , which is not with righteous anger how you Fundy's seem to think He sees the lost.
He was not righteously angry with you when you were not in faith , no He drew you with bands of love that hopefully led you to repentance .
So I must base the truth off feelings? Come now Pcamps
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Old 10-12-2009, 10:23 AM
 
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WOW! There it is folks, universalism in a nutshell "The gospel of me, I, us, they, we, them, you, my, mine"

To answer your question, this is exactly why you don't understand us because we put God's glory first, we talk, teach, preach about God's glory and not man.


So how is it then relevant that YOU do this?

You and WE are in your post, does it actually matter if You and WE are giving God the glory, how are you not propping "you" and "WE" up by telling us "You" do this?
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Old 10-12-2009, 10:26 AM
 
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So how is it then relevant that YOU do this?

You and WE are in your post, does it actually matter if You and WE are giving God the glory, how are you not propping "you" and "WE" up by telling us "You" do this?
I answered his question in a nutshell, it's not about us, It's all about Him and no matter what He decides to do gives Him the glory no matter what we think or how we FEEL

See the difference in the context with our I, ME ETC....

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Old 10-12-2009, 10:32 AM
 
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So I must base the truth off feelings? Come now Pcamps
Nothing to do with feelings , since i saw the truth in the scriptures regarding UR something changed for the better in me . It's the word(truth) that sets us free , is that a feeling ?

Knowing the reality of God = the truth= being set free= love ,peace and joy in your life .These effects are not feelings
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Old 10-12-2009, 10:36 AM
 
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I answered his question in a nutshell, it's not about us, It's all about Him and no matter what He decides to do gives Hm the glory no matter what we think or how we FEEL

See the difference in the context with our I, ME ETC....


I agree that how we feel has nothing to do with anything.

It also shows that

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To answer your question, this is exactly why you don't understand us because we put God's glory first, we talk, teach, preach about God's glory and not man.
....is of no effect.

If God has assigned you to eternal damnation then what you preach about your own assurance is irrelevant and may not even be right.

After all, it is not about you.
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Old 10-12-2009, 10:37 AM
 
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Nothing to do with feelings , since i saw the truth in the scriptures regarding UR something changed for the better in me . It's the word(truth) that sets us free , is that a feeling ?

Knowing the reality of God = the truth= being set free= love ,peace and joy in your life .These effects are not feelings
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Well what i get from His post is honesty and being truthful about the pain felt if you believe 100% your loved ones are in Eternal Torment .

I can also testify that there has been a change for the better in my life since i believed in Universal Reconciliation.
So then why did you play on an emotional plea?
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Old 10-12-2009, 10:39 AM
 
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I agree that how we feel has nothing to do with anything.

It also shows that



....is of no effect.

If God has assigned you to eternal damnation then what you preach about your own assurance is irrelevant and may not even be right.

After all, it is not about you.
what? Please expound on this
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