Any Calvinists here? (Torah, Gospel, hell, doctrine)
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Ok, since you all have not bothered to search for the answer to this question, I will post the scripture that does.
John 10:16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, [and] one shepherd.
This explains everything in regards to those that haven't heard the gospel, those that are unaware of the ability to accept the gospel, as in children, or those indians from all around the world that never heard of the Israel God, Jesus, or the Holy Spirit.
Why am I always working for you to produce the text that is right there in front of all of you, as you all proclaim to know so so much about?
Tell me then, how are these children and infants brought to life. Is it any different for them than the young, middle aged or the very old who have heard the Gospel, but as yet were not spiritually called by it? Why is it that this other fold, cannot mean all who could not, or did not, respond to the Gospel message in this life?
Your unbelief is sinking deeper my friend...LOL But I know you're my brother in the Lord...LOL Let it out my friend, proclaim the good news for all!
Exactly....these lepers were men, alive on earth.
UR claim that souls will repent after the experience their "purification" is NOWHERE in the scripture...anywhere.
UR is a false claim.
But you also believe this. In your other fold post for infants and children who never heard the Gospel. People who reject the Gospel have never heard the Gospel call spiritually either. Your own doctrine of Calvinism says so!! You know this but will not admit it...LOL
Why cannot these also be saved just like infants and young children (the other fold you believe Jesus speaks of) in the hereafter? And don't get me wrong, they could all be saved (regenerated by the Spirit) at the very moment of death. Do you know for a fact that they are not? Your arrogance concerning God's grace is flabbergasting to say the least...LOL
Tell me about the timing of regeneration, if you know all things concerning God's wisdom and the workings of the Holy Spirit:
Joh 3:8 the Spirit where he willeth doth blow, and his voice thou dost hear, but thou hast not known whence he cometh, and whither he goeth; thus is every one who hath been born of the Spirit.'
I don't, and I don't think you do either my friend...
Why cannot these also be saved just like infants and young children (the other fold you believe Jesus speaks of) in the hereafter? And don't get me wrong, they could all be saved (regenerated by the Spirit) at the very moment of death. Do you know for a fact that they are not? You arrogance concerning God's grace is flabbergasting to say the least...LOL
If I may interject....when on the day of judgment when they open the book of life and look at the account of my life or yours. I trust it will be very big books but what of an infant...where is the account on that child's life or is there even a book and how can God hold them accountable?
If I may interject....when on the day of judgment when they open the book of life and look at the account of my life or yours. I trust it will be very big books but what of an infant...where is the account on that child's life or is there even a book and how can God hold them accountable?
Do believe that Adam's sin was imputed to the infant?
If I may interject....when on the day of judgment when they open the book of life and look at the account of my life or yours. I trust it will be very big books but what of an infant...where is the account on that child's life or is there even a book and how can God hold them accountable?
See now we are getting into dangerous territory. You are saying those without any works cannot be held accountable so they are saved by their "lack of works"!
If babies, are "auto-saved" in this way, then Andrea Yates did a great act by drowning her 5 small children.
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The point here is God CAN save people after they have died, even though they never could have repented before their death.
But you also believe this. In your other fold post for infants and children who never heard the Gospel. People who reject the Gospel have never heard the Gospel call spiritually either. Your own doctrine of Calvinism says so!! You know this but will not admit it...LOL
People don't go to hell because they never heard the name of Jesus or the gospel; they go to hell because they broke God's laws.....God will reveal Himself to every human being on this planet; past, present and future.
See now we are getting into dangerous territory. You are saying those without any works cannot be held accountable so they are saved by their "lack of works"!
If babies, are "auto-saved" in this way, then Andrea Yates did a great act by drowning her 5 small children.
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The point here is God CAN save people after they have died, even though they never could have repented before their death.
I never said that............. Andrea Yates....that is a bizarre explaination to what I said.
You have lost me. It sounds like you are saying if you haven't been told the word, you will be saved.
If that is what you are saying, you should make it a point to not tell anyone the gospel. Go out of your way to stop the gospel being preached. Then no one will be able to reject it and all will be saved. That's what you are saying. Correct me if I am wrong.
I will let you search that one out...here's a hint....Paul....Collosians
What I am saying is that Christ, God, will reveal Himself to those that have never heard it...that's it. Don't take my words out of context.
The point here is God CAN save people after they have died, even though they never could have repented before their death.
Yes He can, but saying He will is another story. That is what UR does, saying that He will.
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