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Old 01-18-2010, 12:33 PM
 
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The judgment of God is an infantile creation of primitive minds completely ignorant about the reality they inhabited. Fear, Dominance/Submission and Obedience are the early methods of taming and gaining control over wild animals . . . which our savage ancestors were! They are NOT requirements for already domesticated and tame animals . . . neither are they requirements for civilized humans. For civilized humans . . . (or as Jesus said "when the fields are ripe for the harvest") . . . love and acceptance works far better because it counteracts the negative effect of fear and eliminates it.

Believing the methods (fear, submission, obedience, etc.) are what is desired by the "trainer" . . . instead of the outcomes (self-control, morality) . . . is a very typical result of mislearning when direct communication between trainer and subject is not possible as when humans train animals . . . (or God trains humans) . . . but for humans to retain the mislearning into spiritual adulthood is childish.
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Old 01-18-2010, 01:50 PM
 
Location: El Paso, TX
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For the sake of conversation.......let's say it's all true. It happened and you don't know what to do, nor where to turn. This is not a remember "we told you so", it's help in what would be the darkest hours on the face of the Earth. Pass it on! Memorandum



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Thanks for posting that Betsey. Some will listen, unfortunately, many won't.

Here is the raptured church in Heaven about to return to the earth.

Revelation 19:7 'Let us rejoice and be glad and give the glory to Him, for the marriage of the Lamb has come and His bride (the raptured church) has made herself ready. 8) And it was given to her to clothe herself in fine linen, bright and clean; for the fine linen is the righteous acts of the saints. (This is after the judgment of seat of Christ has taken place and believers have received whatever rewards they have based upon their spiritual production while they were on earth during their life.) This is the entire raptured church in Heaven, those of you who will not listen. Or maybe that should be, 'for those of you who Will listen.'
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Old 01-19-2010, 06:27 AM
 
Location: Out of Florida........
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And so it is, so it is. Some will come to the knowledge of the truth. I AM CONVINCED some will come! Praying for the rest. God speed. To all on their journey's...........keep the faith and keep spreading the WORD!
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Old 01-19-2010, 05:53 PM
 
Location: Out of Florida........
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Let's say the idea of a Pre-trib Rapture is False. Isn't this a very dangerous teaching? You are running around telling everyone there's going to be a rapture of all believers, so you better become a believer now.

But the average atheist unbeliever says, Nah, I don't believe it. Who cares anyway, if the rapture happens, I'll become a believer at that point! Hey I get a second chance to repent then! And then the atheist carries on being an unbeliever....
"I'll become a believer at that point"..........providing you get the opportunity, providing you get the opportunity. That's why it's said over and over again: TODAY is the day of Salvation, today my friend........for tomorrow is not promised to no one, absolutely no one, you understand?
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