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Old 01-21-2010, 11:27 AM
 
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Infinite penalty cannot satisfy justice, by definition. For at the
point at which it satisfies justice, the penalty must end.

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Old 01-21-2010, 11:36 AM
 
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Infinite penalty cannot satisfy justice, by definition. For at the
point at which it satisfies justice, the penalty must end.

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Only an infinite punishment can satisfy an eternal God because it is an eternal offense against an eternal God. Unless you repent and receive Christ your offense stays with you and that offense is forever because God goes on forever NEVER being satified without the blood of Jesus Christ.

You lie to your children, you lose respect
You lie to your wife, you sleep on the couch or separation
You lie to your boss, you can get fired
You lie to the police, you can go to court
You lie to the judge, you can get thrown in jail
You lie to to a holy, just, eternal God, you get a holy, just eternal punishment.

Greater the authority the greater the punishment.
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Old 01-21-2010, 11:45 AM
 
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Greater the authority the greater the punishment.
How does that mesh with the woman caught in adultery? All the lesser authorities wanted to stone her but the greatest authority forgave her.
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Old 01-21-2010, 11:49 AM
 
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Pay attention to what the OP is saying.

The moment that justice is fully satisfied, then the penalty is no longer needed.

Example: a murderer is sent to jail for 50 years. At the end of the 50th year, the murderer has paid his time, and is let go, a free man. Justice has been satisfied and the penalty has ended.

With an infinite penalty, justice will never be satisfied.
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Old 01-21-2010, 11:51 AM
 
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How does that mesh with the woman caught in adultery? All the lesser authorities wanted to stone her but the greatest authority forgave her.
They were right to stone her because that is what the law requires passed down by Moses given to him by God. This was a trap for Jesus and not having the right heart in carrying out the laws of God by that they didn't even accuse the man (it takes two to tango) furthermore yes Jesus forgave but He told her to go and sin no more. She walked away knowing her sins were forgiven and that she could live a sinless life
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Old 01-21-2010, 11:55 AM
 
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Pay attention to what the OP is saying.

The moment that justice is fully satisfied, then the penalty is no longer needed.

Example: a murderer is sent to jail for 50 years. At the end of the 50th year, the murderer has paid his time, and is let go, a free man. Justice has been satisfied and the penalty has ended.

With an infinite penalty, justice will never be satisfied.
Curious what if the murderer was sent for life which they usually are? why life
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Old 01-21-2010, 11:57 AM
 
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Unfaithful servants have their portion with the unbelievers
  • Luke 12:46 The lord of that servant will come in a day when he looketh not for him, and at an hour when he is not aware, and will cut him in sunder, and will appoint him his portion with the unbelievers.
And what portion is that?
  • Revelation 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
How many stripes?
  • Luke 12:47 And that servant, which knew his lord's will, and prepared not himself, neither did according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes. 48 But he that knew not, and did commit things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few stripes. For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required: and to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more. 49 I am come to send fire on the earth; and what will I, if it be already kindled?
Eternal God... Righteous judgment
  • Psalms 67:4 O let the nations be glad and sing for joy: for thou shalt judge the people righteously, and govern the nations upon earth. Selah. 5 Let the people praise thee, O God; let all the people praise thee. 6 Then shall the earth yield her increase; and God, even our own God, shall bless us. 7 God shall bless us; and all the ends of the earth shall fear him.
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Old 01-21-2010, 12:00 PM
 
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Fundy I tried to rep you but aparently I cant find enough deserving of rep to rep you again so consider yourself repped.
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Old 01-21-2010, 12:00 PM
 
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Unfaithful servants have their portion with the unbelievers
  • Luke 12:46 The lord of that servant will come in a day when he looketh not for him, and at an hour when he is not aware, and will cut him in sunder...............
I appreciate the verses but there are so many more.
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Old 01-21-2010, 12:00 PM
 
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Curious what if the murderer was sent for life which they usually are? why life
Probably because man is not very good at correcting another man.
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