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Old 08-13-2010, 05:17 PM
 
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We agree that after Christ died the whole world became Israelites and as Israelites we all belong to one tribe or the other. All references to Israel were meant for the whole world. Christ said that his followers will rule over the 12 tribes of Israel. He actually meant the whole world!

You say he will rule in heaven! Big deal... Its like if I say you will rule in your house.. How about that? He was always ruling in heaven!!!!!!

Do you remember our Lords prayer? .. thy kingdom come... thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven.." Sure you pray that regularly? Well the whole purpose of the man coming to die was for that kingdom to manifest on earth, not in heaven. The earth is where its happening man, not heaven!!! That was where a certain Lucifer deceived our Father and Mother. That had to be set right and that process cannot go uncompleted!
Revelation 21:12-14 "New Jerusalem Is Described"
12 And had a wall great and high, and had twelve gates, and at the gates twelve angels, and names written thereon, which are the names of the 12 tribes of the children of Israel:

13 On the east 3 gates; on the north 3 gates; on the south 3 gates; and on the west 3 gates.

14 And the wall of the city had 12 foundations, and in them the names of the 12 apostles of the Lamb. (The ones who were with him and witnessed his teachings and miracles while he walked on earth.)

18-21 The 12 manner of stones symbolize the 12 months whereby the 12 tribes were born.

Lastly...we are written in "The Book of Life" if we believe that we are descendants of Adam and Eve...do we not?

Peace!
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Old 08-14-2010, 04:15 PM
 
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Revelation 21:12-14 "New Jerusalem Is Described"
12 And had a wall great and high, and had twelve gates, and at the gates twelve angels, and names written thereon, which are the names of the 12 tribes of the children of Israel:

13 On the east 3 gates; on the north 3 gates; on the south 3 gates; and on the west 3 gates.

14 And the wall of the city had 12 foundations, and in them the names of the 12 apostles of the Lamb. (The ones who were with him and witnessed his teachings and miracles while he walked on earth.)

18-21 The 12 manner of stones symbolize the 12 months whereby the 12 tribes were born.

Lastly...we are written in "The Book of Life" if we believe that we are descendants of Adam and Eve...do we not?

Peace!
Thanks.

The new Jerusalem is a physical kingdom of God on earth. That was why John saw it as coming from heaven! That kingdom is already here. Christ and his Father have already manifested. The rule of man is heading south!
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Old 08-14-2010, 05:22 PM
 
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jesus christ is in all of us.. alive.. it is up to us to find him.,, he never went anywhere...we look to the world for him, this is why we do not find him.
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Old 08-14-2010, 05:37 PM
 
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Hello,

Here on earth, He is in us and we in Him via the spirit, in Heaven we are with Him, and He with us. God bless.
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Old 08-14-2010, 05:41 PM
 
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Faith is belief but it in no way means it is the absolute truth. Simply quoting the Bible is self-referential and is not proof of any kind. I respect your faith in Jesus and I am glad it gives you comfort but there is no certainty to any of your beliefs.
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Old 08-15-2010, 09:01 AM
 
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Hello,

Here on earth, He is in us and we in Him via the spirit, in Heaven we are with Him, and He with us. God bless.
God has the duality of existence. He as a spirit can be in us, but can at the same time exist on earth.
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Old 12-31-2010, 10:31 PM
 
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Jesus Christ told his disciples that this generation shall not end before we see his manifestation and the manifestation of all the signs he rolled out in Mathew 24:4-34. The generation of Jesus Christ must have ended in 2001, a Bibilical generation is 2000 years. It means then that he has come even though we may not know him since he will not answer the previous name Jesus (Rev 3:12). Now if he has come, he would be with us as we match to the end of the current state of things, the change over from the doctrine of men to the kingdom and doctrine of God.

Why do Christians still expect him from the sky? Did the angels not confirm that he would come back in a human form, the form he left (Acts 1:11) and Rev 12:5? Did God glorify angels or any spirit apart from man (Gen 1:26-28) (Heb 1:13)? Man is to rule in this world and the Son of man must rule as man, not as angel (Heb 1:5-7). The difference between him and us is that all authority and powers and angels would be under his command. Our task is to unearth the corner of the world where this being with all powers now reside!

But remember that as was in days of Noah, so shall it be in the days of the Son of Man. He shall suffer many things and be rejected by men (Luke 1724-26)!
He is here. But he will not take the name Jesus. Nor respond to it. He wants to destroy that name and the image associated with that name. Fit in with the times so to speak. The fear based rule, is not a good outcome, an old wine that was needed at the time.

So you must realise. He is the spirit of. But his soul is surely imprinted by this life more than the past life.

One only needs the spirit that is beyond time, to ratify the soul's highs and lows, without the need to return to old an archaic ways.

How he thinks?

Outcome.

He wants an outcome that had the least suffering to achieve this outcome.

It involves, waiting, hiding, watching, continual learning and change.

Not one man who was there back then, is not here today. They just do not know where they came from and where they are going.

So of course he is here. But what does he do? Walk around proclaiming his birthright only to be laughed at?
Cast the sun out of the sky in the matter of a minute, and cause absolute chaos?

Or does he patiently wait for everyone to come to the light, not in his name, but simply in the light that all of us have and share.

Then perhaps he will be ready to appear, and help create a new world with the many voices to paint this new world.

It is one thing to theorise. It is another to accept the man as being who he was. It shatters your concept of the world. To believe in the dead is easy. To believe in the living is hard.

What would you do if you were him? Knowing that the fear of facing wrongs initiates automatic disbelief. Knowing that faith has fled the world, faith, being the belief that anything is possible.

It is hard enough to be known by words, words which should not be akin to a persona of yesteryear.

Why do you peg it all on him? It is too much pressure, too much burden. He will not come like that.

Where is his support? The church is a joke. He is all alone. So alone he will wait, as the world falls into decline.

This is the truth of the matter. It is not a prophecy, view or opinion.

Because it comes from the tongue of this man, people so highly proclaim, which to deify.

But you must understand, this will not happen. There will be no King of Kings.
It would create a monster. Not a saviour.

So really what people should be concerned about, is trying to lead the world into love. Simple living. Stop. Breathe.

Yet really, truly. It could be any day of choice. But prudence says, choose the day when people are more ready for the day.

It is not possible for such a light to hide forever. It is hard to go outside of the house. Each trip is a close call.

He is a mouse. Not quite a lion. But no plan is set, the world chops and changes and plans must zig and zag.

The way he comes, is going to be quite unexpected. He will not come until everyone is ready and beg of it.

In regards to the cloud. The cloud will be a low cloud. About the flight, this is a part of the future, but belief is required before the gravity of dispelled.

Otherwise, the thief in the night is a terrible lockpicker.

Your locks are so strong.

But don't think of me. Think of you. Your struggles and denials. Your blocks inside. Anything else is a waste of time.
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Old 12-31-2010, 10:56 PM
 
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jesus was obsessed with fulfilling prophecy in order to inspire belief. Left no stone unturned.
It does not matter now. he is not going anywhere other than the south. He goes his own way now.
So do not expect everything that was said will happen, because times change, ideas change, hearts change, plans change

I just wish people would do something good for the world, and stop waiting for this one man? How lazy of you all to expect someone is going to solve all your problems.
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Old 12-31-2010, 11:08 PM
 
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jesus was obsessed with fulfilling prophecy in order to inspire belief. Left no stone unturned.
It does not matter now. he is not going anywhere other than the south. He goes his own way now.
So do not expect everything that was said will happen, because times change, ideas change, hearts change, plans change

I just wish people would do something good for the world, and stop waiting for this one man? How lazy of you all to expect someone is going to solve all your problems.
Jesus is going south??? Hallelujah!! That's where I am and I could use a little love right now.
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Old 01-01-2011, 08:06 PM
 
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well far south, the world is not one country, remember. Example, south korea is still in my mind north. but good people will naturally go to where the light is, others will keep away

be it that the north opposes the south, and turns the time
someday the south will have the sun, and the north will have none
why?
because the world has already been judged
the living will come to the southern hemisphere
because that is where the living one will be

Ilene, hallelujah, it means praise god. If you can find that deep inside, swim in uncertainty, accept every outcome, booooom love is yours north or south, west or east.
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