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Old 09-04-2019, 12:46 PM
 
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FCA's HVAC systems are problematic, but having a recirculation door is not. All cars can either pull in outside air, or recirculate inside air. That is normal. When it isn't doing what it should, that is just a malfunction. The blend door motors are notorious for failing which can cause AC/heat performance issues. Also, the humidity sensors go bad, which can cause the recirculation door to open/close randomly and when it shouldn't.
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Old 09-05-2019, 03:15 PM
 
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FCA's HVAC systems are problematic, but having a recirculation door is not. All cars can either pull in outside air, or recirculate inside air. That is normal. When it isn't doing what it should, that is just a malfunction. The blend door motors are notorious for failing which can cause AC/heat performance issues. Also, the humidity sensors go bad, which can cause the recirculation door to open/close randomly and when it shouldn't.
I’ve owned 4 FCA vehicles on the past 7 years and I have no idea what you’re talking about.
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Old 09-05-2019, 03:17 PM
 
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A Jeep with some crazy problem that you'd never hear from another make of cars... imagine that.
Yeah no other 1st year model car has issues at all.
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Old 09-06-2019, 07:02 AM
 
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FCA is going to discontinue a lot of vehicles in this country. fiat is toast in the US. it's just a matter of time. the only thing dodge is good for is their sedans/muscle cars. jeep needs to cancel everything but the grand cherokee and the wrangler, and the ram should just continue on. the new 1500 looks like a nice truck, even if it will fall apart after 30k miles.
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Old 09-06-2019, 01:34 PM
 
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I’ve owned 4 FCA vehicles on the past 7 years and I have no idea what you’re talking about.
Be thankful your anecdotal sample size has not had a problem.

A lot (a LOT) of recent year FCA cars have had issues with AC out one door, heat out the other, or recirc not working, with clicking noises in the dash. These are blend door failures. Dealers all have a ready supply of actuators because these are a common fail and replacement point.

Humidity sensors are not as common a fail point, but dealers do see some volume of them going bad too.

I am not trying to slam FCA, I like and drive FCA products, but they are not perfect. Some minimal research will reveal HVAC issues across FCA, due to parts commonality. I have had HVAC issues in both my Chargers (13-blend door actuator, 16-Humidity sensor) and discovered I was not alone.

Do not get me started on warping interior trim, another widespread (and disappointing) problem in the LX cars. My Charger suffers it minimally, but warmer climate Chargers have interior panels separating right open like an 80's GM product.

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Old 09-06-2019, 01:36 PM
 
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My 3 year old jeep with higher than average mileage is holding up well. Sure, the fit and finish could be better. However, the issues that show up have been easy to correct.

Dodge is doing something right with the Charger and Challenger. I toyed with buying one or the other when I landed on my Jeep. The 4x4 does really well in the snow. I wish I would have a gone with a newer Cherokee or Grand Cherokee. Room and tow capacity would be dandy.

Fiat, I like them. I really like the Spider 124. That would be a fun ride to go ripping through the hills in.
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Old 09-06-2019, 01:44 PM
 
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My 3 year old jeep with higher than average mileage is holding up well. Sure, the fit and finish could be better. However, the issues that show up have been easy to correct.

Dodge is doing something right with the Charger and Challenger. I toyed with buying one or the other when I landed on my Jeep. The 4x4 does really well in the snow. I wish I would have a gone with a newer Cherokee or Grand Cherokee. Room and tow capacity would be dandy.

Fiat, I like them. I really like the Spider 124. That would be a fun ride to go ripping through the hills in.

I have been shopping Wranglers this summer, which will likely be my next vehicle. I haven't owned a Jeep since a couple TJ's last decade when I moved to Chargers, and am blown away at how improved they are in ride, handling, etc.
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Old 09-09-2019, 02:09 AM
 
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Be thankful your anecdotal sample size has not had a problem.

A lot (a LOT) of recent year FCA cars have had issues with AC out one door, heat out the other, or recirc not working, with clicking noises in the dash. These are blend door failures. Dealers all have a ready supply of actuators because these are a common fail and replacement point.

Humidity sensors are not as common a fail point, but dealers do see some volume of them going bad too.

I am not trying to slam FCA, I like and drive FCA products, but they are not perfect. Some minimal research will reveal HVAC issues across FCA, due to parts commonality. I have had HVAC issues in both my Chargers (13-blend door actuator, 16-Humidity sensor) and discovered I was not alone.

Do not get me started on warping interior trim, another widespread (and disappointing) problem in the LX cars. My Charger suffers it minimally, but warmer climate Chargers have interior panels separating right open like an 80's GM product.
I had a 2011 Overland Grand Cherokee with a leather clad dash in Florida and South Carolina that I was worried about. I sold it at 100k miles (I know the new owner who now has 120k miles on it) and I was amazed how well the interior held up (most interiors I’ve owned on other makes seem to get “squeaky” as they age). I do know somebody who’s leather peeled back on the dash, but they soaked it in armour all which I think makes it worse. I just wiped mine down with a damp cloth per the manual.

What probably happened is you had a failure, went to the forums, found a concentrated collection of people with the same failure, which makes it appear everybody is having the same failures.

I don’t trust FCA (or anybody else for that matter) to get it right on the first year model, so I did wait what felt like an entire excruciating year to get a 2019 JL Wrangler. It seems like a lot of first year problems were cleaned up by then.
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Old 09-11-2019, 08:10 AM
 
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I don’t trust FCA (or anybody else for that matter) to get it right on the first year model, so I did wait what felt like an entire excruciating year to get a 2019 JL Wrangler. It seems like a lot of first year problems were cleaned up by then.

I certainly would not want a 1st year model of a redesign either! There tends to be things that need attention, and even when they are not serious I don't care to be running back to the dealer to get them taken care of.


My wife bought a 1st model year Lincoln MKC. YIKES is all I have to say (it was, literally, a lemon, 15 service visits in 12 months, a nightmare as it was always in the shop for endless problems, many never resolved).
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Old 09-11-2019, 10:34 AM
 
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The Jeep Cherokee, since 2014 model year, is one the worst and most troublesome vehicles you can buy today.
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