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Originally Posted by Hot Desert
As I recall when your big i was under construction almost everyone in abq was thrilled of the abq gem and posting pics everywhere lol. What happend is all the excitement gone? Stay Tuned for "the true characteristics of a city" El Paso City.
That was 10 years ago, I wasn't here for that. You still haven't answered the question though. For somebody who has such enthusiasm for their home city one would think they would be able to answer the question on what genuinely makes El Paso interesting besides smacktalking ABQ and repeatedly talking about freeways. Stay tuned? OK.
Here's the question again. No need to scapegoat ABQ this time in your reply either as that just simply evades the question. Just answer a simple question and perhaps there will be some credibility (and I'll listen with an open mind and as I'll be happy to learn something I didn't know about El Paso). Good Luck.
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Originally Posted by caphillsea77
So what else you got besides Desert Mountains and Cocrete (something any big Southwestern city would have)? Your freeway contest is like a field full of dead horses. Every city has freeways, yes Texas builds them bigger, but at the end of the day their just ribbons of concrete. Most people don't joyride freeways for their asthetics. How about downtown, neighborhoods and their characteristics, remarkable hotels, restaurants, charm, historical areas, and shopping. You know... the true characteristics of a city. What gives El Paso the edge?
That was 10 years ago, I wasn't here for that. You still haven't answered the question though. For somebody who has such enthusiasm for their home city one would think they would be able to answer the question on what genuinely makes El Paso interesting besides smacktalking ABQ and repeatedly talking about freeways. Stay tuned? OK.
Here's the question again. No need to scapegoat ABQ this time in your reply either as that just simply evades the question. Just answer a simple question and perhaps there will be some credibility (and I'll listen with an open mind and as I'll be happy to learn something I didn't know about El Paso). Good Luck.
He won't answer the question, this person just has an inferiority complex for some reason. Why do you think he focuses on the one thing el paso has more of (freeways) woopty doo. Anything else it fails in comparison to Albuquerque!
He won't answer the question, this person just has an inferiority complex for some reason. Why do you think he focuses on the one thing el paso has more of (freeways) woopty doo. Anything else it fails in comparison to Albuquerque!
I'm truly afraid of the thousand or so pics that are inevitable in his/her post. You'd think that one that loves their city so much could just reel off some answers to the question posed without having to do some research and finding a thousand pics.
That was 10 years ago, I wasn't here for that. You still haven't answered the question though. For somebody who has such enthusiasm for their home city one would think they would be able to answer the question on what genuinely makes El Paso interesting besides smacktalking ABQ and repeatedly talking about freeways. Stay tuned? OK.
Here's the question again. No need to scapegoat ABQ this time in your reply either as that just simply evades the question. Just answer a simple question and perhaps there will be some credibility (and I'll listen with an open mind and as I'll be happy to learn something I didn't know about El Paso). Good Luck.
OK, construction pics were posted for non-believers especially Observe, proof of its huge growth and progress. Observe seems to have a problem with Beautiful Gigantic El Paso, which down here in El Paso no one cares what he thinks or anyone else in New Mexico! Now your last quote above- "Good Luck" humors me, it's not like you're in some tourist mecca or exclusive, elegant, posh, supreme city and State! have you forgotten you're in Albuquerque, NEW MEXICO? I've been traveling thru Abq for the past 15yrs believe me it doesn't have anything better than El Paso, granted the scenery in certain areas is nice other than that- not much. If abq has 1 or 2 more of something than El Paso well it should, it being the only largest city in a State, El Paso is in TEXAS with at least 6 other MAJOR U.S. cities! Now take a tour down thru Old El Paso's lower valley Mission trail, then after a steak for dinner. Click on the links below.
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Originally Posted by Hot Desert
OK, construction pics were posted for proof for the non-believers, especially for observe, he really seems to have a problem with Beautiful Gigantic El Paso progress, which down here in El Paso nobody gives a rat's **s what he thinks or anyone else in new mexico! Now your last sentence above- " Good Luck" humors me, it's not like you're in some exclusive, elegant, posh, supreme city and State! have you forgotten you're in albuquerque, NEW MEXICO? I've been traveling thru abq for the past 15yrs and believe me it doesn't have anything better than El Paso, granted the scenery in certain areas is nice, other than that- who knows If abq has 1 or 2 more of something than El Paso well it should, it being the only largest city in a State, El Paso is in TEXAS with at least 6 other MAJOR US cities! Now take a tour down thru Old El Paso's lower valley Mission trail, then after a steak for dinner. Click on the links below ENJOY-
You still can't compliment El Paso without smack talking Albuquerque can you? That's what makes every one of your posts less meaningful. You haven't been able to articulate the attributes of El Paso based on its own merritts. Thus the reason why I said good luck, it's based on your spiteful smack talk which really means nothing. I'm confident and happy about where I live and I don't have to be spiteful about somewhere else to know that.
With that said, we know El Paso is in Texas and we know how big it is, no need to point out the obvious. I'm not in Albuqerque I'm in Santa Fe, though I do enjoy visiting ABQ from time to time as I think its a beutiful city with a gorgeous setting and some interesting neighborhoods including Old Town and Nob Hill, and I just happen prefer those areas over downtown EP and the UTEP area. Is it Albuquerque A-list? Of course not, but if that's what I wanted I'd be in NYC or LA. Yeah its got a lot of crappy areas (as does El Paso), but I enjoy the history , character, and food there as well as the beautiful Sandia Mountains they're gorgeous.
So you're right, one can certainly get a mighty good steak in El Paso, I've experienced that myself there at the Edge of Texas steakhouse, great service too (Texas has a very good standard of friendly customer service). The Mission Trail does look very cool, I love the Old Spanish architecture. How about in town? Neighborhoods, character, shopping, what else you got? Can you do it this time in a less trite manner without embarrasing yourself by making another city a scapegoat to elevate your own?
One last thing, I don't think neither El Paso, nor Albuquerque are making spectacular progress (as you claim for EP) as far as 21st century urban infrastructure is concerned. The whole freeway thing isn't really that impressive, just adds more crappy sprawl (something both cities have a lot of). How about Tucson (oh yeah that's right, they're in this thread too). They have made better strides at making their college neighborhood and downtown more cohesive with streecars and less focus on freeways and Tucson is a fine city as well. Urban Rail generally adds more quality to adding vibrancy to neighborhoods and pedestrian cohesiveness. Not to say Tucson doesn't suffer some of the same sprawly ills, though its a step in the right direction. I've seen plans for adding potential light rail or streetcars in El Paso and Albuquerque, though until they actually start laying some track, Tucson is ahead of the game here.
Last edited by Champ le monstre du lac; 05-22-2012 at 05:48 PM..
You still can't compliment El Paso without smack talking Albuquerque can you? That's what makes every one of your posts less meaningful. You haven't been able to articulate the attributes of El Paso based on its own merritts. Thus the reason why I said good luck, it's based on your spiteful smack talk which really means nothing. I'm confident and happy about where I live and I don't have to be spiteful about somewhere else to know that.
With that said, we know El Paso is in Texas and we know how big it is, no need to point out the obvious. I'm not in Albuqerque I'm in Santa Fe, though I do enjoy visiting ABQ from time to time as I think its a beutiful city with a gorgeous setting and some interesting neighborhoods including Old Town and Nob Hill, and I just happen prefer those areas over downtown EP and the UTEP area. Is it Albuquerque A-list? Of course not, but if that's what I wanted I'd be in NYC or LA. Yeah its got a lot of crappy areas (as does El Paso), but I enjoy the history , character, and food there as well as the beautiful Sandia Mountains they're gorgeous.
So you're right, one can certainly get a mighty good steak in El Paso, I've experienced that myself there at the Edge of Texas steakhouse, great service too (Texas has a very good standard of friendly customer service). The Mission Trail does look very cool, I love the Old Spanish architecture. How about in town? Neighborhoods, character, shopping, what else you got? Can you do it this time in a less trite manner without embarrasing yourself by making another city a scapegoat to elevate your own?
One last thing, I don't think neither El Paso, nor Albuquerque are making spectacular progress (as you claim for EP) as far as 21st century urban infrastructure is concerned. The whole freeway thing isn't really that impressive, just adds more crappy sprawl (something both cities have a lot of). How about Tucson (oh yeah that's right, they're in this thread too). They have made better strides at making their college neighborhood and downtown more cohesive with streecars and less focus on freeways and Tucson is a fine city as well. Urban Rail generally adds more quality to adding vibrancy to neighborhoods and pedestrian cohesiveness. Not to say Tucson doesn't suffer some of the same sprawly ills, though its a step in the right direction. I've seen plans for adding potential light rail or streetcars in El Paso and Albuquerque, though until they actually start laying some track, Tucson is ahead of the game here.
I'm wondering have you read all postings on here thoroughly? I'm not smack talking abq or being spiteful, i'm just answering in their manner. Now how can I use abq as a scapegoat to elevate El Paso? I'm merely stating facts of what is currently happening in El Paso which obviously is alot more than Abq or the State of New Mexico will see in 25-30 yrs. As for the UTEP Area, not sure if you visited the Cincinatti District and the beautiful historic Kern Place neighborhood located behind the district against the mountain, I think it's nicer than the nob hill area. El Paso city council has approved the $4 million environmental study needed to allow The Texas Department of Transportation's $93 million to restore it's historic trolly system and create a loop from downtown EP to UTEP, Historic Sunset Heights and Kern Place neighborhoods. That means the trolly line would be similar to San Francisco's because of the steep hills going up and down from Downtown to UTEP and neighborhoods. City council announced a 2014 completion. Not sure how you calculate progress, but it seems to me El Paso's is record breaking. Now if you're happy in New Mexico, more power to you, as for me I wouldn't get caught dead with a New Mexico license plate on my vehicle. Tucson bring it ON.
Last edited by Hot Desert; 05-22-2012 at 08:33 PM..
20-35 years?
The funny thing about all your boasting is that Albuquerque has grown faster than el paso from 2000 to 2010. Without the help of the federal government.......ie Ft Bliss massive expansion!
Albuquerque metro grew at 21.6%. By 157,428
El paso metro grew at 15.2% by 71,674
Also according to the el paso times (sluggish growth projected for 2012)
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One category Albuquerque surpasses El Paso in is hotel accomodations. One of the architectural gems in downtown El Paso and one of the original Hilton Hotels is now the Camino Real. I stayed there a few weeks ago. It still has a grand lobby but the hotel quality has plummeted over the years and is in desperate need of renovation. The interior is outdated, faded, and downright dingy in spots. Sad to see what once once a grand property so neglected. I suppose the luxury market just isn't there, best downtown El Paso can do is the new Doubletree, not very exciting. And as for the rest it’s the usually mid range to budget chains one could find anywhere else and an airport Marriott.
Albuquerque has a downtown Hyatt, the Hotel Albuquerque and Q nightclub in Old Town, and the new boutique hotel with a great rooftop lounge the Parq Central. In other areas there's a Hilton and Marriot and the Nativo lodge which has local chracter and accents. On the outskirts there is the Sandia Hotel and Casino the fantastic Hyatt Tamaya resort, this property is sweet (New Mexico Resorts- Hyatt Regency Tamaya Resort & Spa- New Mexico Hotel, Accommodations)
Tucson excels both El Paso and Albuquerque as it's more of a tourist destination for leisure travelers and golfers and has a wealthier clientele base. That said, El Paso is really lacking in the hotel market.
Last edited by Champ le monstre du lac; 05-22-2012 at 09:55 PM..
As for el paso's Cincinnati district & kern place, Nob Hill is a lot livelier with that funky college hip vibe going on. Something Cincinnati st is missing. While you're at it post some pics of the Cincinnati area to show people how great it is.
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Stay Tuned for "the true characteristics of a city" El Paso City.
If abq has 1 or 2 more of something than El Paso well it should, it being the only largest city in a State, El Paso is in TEXAS with at least 6 other MAJOR US cities! Now take a tour down thru Old El Paso's lower valley Mission trail, then after a steak for dinner. Click on the links below ENJOY-