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Tell me something. In real life when discussing with someone which city you like the best do you throw density stats at them are do you like a normal human being discuss things like housing, schools, stores, restaurants, bars, transportation, crime, taxes etc etc ?
realize that hoboken (or jersey city for that matter) offer many of the best aspects of NYC without even being in the city itself and are closer to manhattan than most of NYC's boroughs from an access standpoint.
Hoboken and jersey city are not closer to manhattan than any borough besides staten island. What part of this are people not understanding. The boroughs are all physically closer first of all. Second of all theres more lines and transit options from each borough(again besides SI) that goes into manhattan. Each individual borough has a better transit system(access) than the entire hudson county let alone hoboken.
Hoboken is using ny as a crutch in this thread. Why cant jersey city or any of the north new jersey cities stand on their own merit. Get off new yorks johnson.
Its so out of hand to the point where the view of manhattan(another city entirely) is being used as a smoking gun for hoboken.
If anything use the access argument to jersey city or something. Hoboken nor any other hudson county city or town is not a sixth borough,is not part of the fabric of new york and is not apart of ny state to begin with
You're really going to use the "drop it in the middle of no where" technique?
Since you like to limit Hoboken to the one square mile it's in and belittle it for having no prime time job space...
Pick one square mile in Silver Spring/Buckhead, drop it in the middle of no where- it will be FAAAAR less populated than Hoboken, and no one would be able to full fill all the jobs it has to offer (since, like Hoboken, it is what it is because of LOCATION)
At least with Hoboken there will be more to do as far as nightife and dining goes, and the whole city will have access to it.
Be realistic, you don't use logic what so ever.
I've picked downtown Silver Spring from the beginning and it actually a smaller area geographically than Hoboken, yet SILVER SPRINGHAS MORE PEOPLE WITHIN A SQUARE MILE THANHOBOKEN and is able to supply enough jobs, and retail. Silver Spring is simply one of the best balanced mixed use places in the Country.
Silver Spring
Amazing, within 5 years we have had over 6,000 units planned in Silver Spring CBD and approx 2000 have been built. Many under construction as we speak.
Who would have though highrises would be denser than a bunch of rowhouses?
retail and not be a predominantly residential bedroom community.
So guess what you are wrong! Silver Spring is denser than hoboken and ould be self sustainable if you dropped it in the middle of nowhere. Hoboken might as well drop in the hudson cause it wouldnt survive or exist without New York.
Silver Spring's character, history, urbanity, good schools and amenities are why companies are there. The Reason for Discovery, TV One, American Film Institute, Fillmore and United Therapeutics there has nothing to do with D.C. they could have chose or stayed in other places but they did not. Bethesda, Rosslyn and parts of D.C. are all good options but they did not go there.
Wow look at that Silver Spring is denser than Hoboken, you can pick your jaw off the floor now.
Hoboken and jersey city are not closer to manhattan than any borough besides staten island. What part of this are people not understanding. The boroughs are all physically closer first of all. Second of all theres more lines and transit options from each borough(again besides SI) that goes into manhattan. Each individual borough has a better transit system(access) than the entire hudson county let alone hoboken.
Hoboken is using ny as a crutch in this thread. Why cant jersey city or any of the north new jersey cities stand on their own merit. Get off new yorks johnson.
Its so out of hand to the point where the view of manhattan(another city entirely) is being used as a smoking gun for hoboken.
If anything use the access argument to jersey city or something. Hoboken nor any other hudson county city or town is not a sixth borough,is not part of the fabric of new york and is not apart of ny state to begin with
Hoboken uses NYC as a crutch? NYC dominates that whole area. NYC is not a "crutch", the tri state area is what it is because of NYC- Hoboken attracts a lot professional NYC commuters because of mere location, that doesn't make NYC a "Crutch"- Hoboken offers plenty for itself, it's a thriving community that attracts heaps of Manhattan transplants.
Hoboken can't help that people desire to live there because of access to Manhattan. The real crutch is the senseless denial you use to avoid reality- location means everything.
No body limits to themselves to one square mile in reality- Not even NYers. .. And if they do, then they'd probably be just as close minded as you.
I've picked downtown Silver Spring from the beginning and it actually a smaller area geographically than Hoboken, yet SILVER SPRINGHAS MORE PEOPLE WITHIN A SQUARE MILE THANHOBOKEN and is able to supply enough jobs, and retail. Silver Spring is simply one of the best balanced mixed use places in the Country.
Amazing, within 5 years we have had over 6,000 units planned in Silver Spring CBD and approx 2000 have been built. Many under construction as we speak.
Who would have though highrises would be denser than a bunch of rowhouses?
retail and not be a predominantly residential bedroom community.
So guess what you are wrong! Silver Spring is denser than hoboken and ould be self sustainable if you dropped it in the middle of nowhere. Hoboken might as well drop in the hudson cause it wouldnt survive or exist without New York.
Silver Spring's character, history, urbanity, good schools and amenities are why companies are there. The Reason for Discovery, TV One, American Film Institute, Fillmore and United Therapeutics there has nothing to do with D.C. they could have chose or stayed in other places but they did not. Bethesda, Rosslyn and parts of D.C. are all good options but they did not go there.
Wow look at that Silver Spring is denser than Hoboken, you can pick your jaw off the floor now.
I think you better check your calculations - at 5 Miles over 100K ppsm? Dude - that is half the population of the entire county of Montgomery, so the rest of the county has a density of 15 ppsm? um no - i have been to Silver Spring many times, and you honestly feel it is denser than Hoboken - the numbers you post exceed most of Manhattan, I think you better sharpen that pencil
and wow obsession with Discovery One, honestly I hardly heard of it before you banter on about it
and your middle of nowhere is rediculus - hate to tell you but Silver Spring would not exist in even a shell of itself without DC - you do realize that, right?
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I've picked downtown Silver Spring from the beginning and it actually a smaller area geographically than Hoboken, yet SILVER SPRINGHAS MORE PEOPLE WITHIN A SQUARE MILE THANHOBOKEN and is able to supply enough jobs, and retail. Silver Spring is simply one of the best balanced mixed use places in the Country.
Amazing, within 5 years we have had over 6,000 units planned in Silver Spring CBD and approx 2000 have been built. Many under construction as we speak.
Who would have though highrises would be denser than a bunch of rowhouses?
retail and not be a predominantly residential bedroom community.
So guess what you are wrong! Silver Spring is denser than hoboken and ould be self sustainable if you dropped it in the middle of nowhere. Hoboken might as well drop in the hudson cause it wouldnt survive or exist without New York.
Silver Spring's character, history, urbanity, good schools and amenities are why companies are there. The Reason for Discovery, TV One, American Film Institute, Fillmore and United Therapeutics there has nothing to do with D.C. they could have chose or stayed in other places but they did not. Bethesda, Rosslyn and parts of D.C. are all good options but they did not go there.
Wow look at that Silver Spring is denser than Hoboken, you can pick your jaw off the floor now.
and send me the address for the calculation. i have an application to calculate radial density from any point in US
There is no zip code in the entire Silver Spring area that has more people than "The Mile Square City" (withput having to nearly be 15 square miles)- So your whole post is flawed.
And those numbers you posted were hilariously stupid and insanely incorrect.
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What does this even mean?
In 5 miles Silver Spring has 589,295 People? I though SS has 82,000 people in 9 square miles? Or is that the density PSM? meaning they have 2,946,475 people in 5 square miles.
Elaborate PLEASE- Or just run, run faaar away
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) than the entire hudson county let alone hoboken.
.. And if they do, then they'd probably be just as close minded as you.
