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Old 07-22-2010, 12:09 AM
 
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are we talking most, or percentage. new york has a different make up than more provincial cities as the ones mentioned above.
It's done by percentage
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Old 07-22-2010, 12:26 AM
 
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I personally like raw numbers... others like percentage (often to get an ego boost or paint their cities a certain way). Raw numbers show me what is actually there that you have access to. Having lots of something else too, that brings down the percentage isn't really a factor, it is actually a plus for me. This could be a negative for others.
I perfer percentages. Ofcourse by raw numbers New York is going to be up there, the city has 8 million people for god sakes! However if you were in Seattle of SF you have a FAR more likely chance of running into someone who has a college degree than in New York. Over half of the residents in Seattle and SF hold college degrees.

So for instance the top 20 ends at 33 percent so I am not sure where New York is on the list but lets say oh 27 percent so that means just over 2 million people out of 8 million hold a degee in NY...so if my math is correct that leaves about 75% of city residents without a college degree. Correct me if I am wrong, math was never my strongest subject. In Seattle there are 600,000 residents and 300,000 of them have degrees, in SF 400,000 of the 800,000 have college degrees.
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Old 07-22-2010, 12:44 AM
 
Location: DC
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Just because New York has 8 million people doesn't mean it's going to be on the top of every list, for instance New York doesn't even crack the top 20 for most educated cities (people holding college degrees)
WRONG

Cities by # of 25+ year olds with bachelors degrees

New York City: 1,076,049
Los Angeles: 462,701
Chicago: 319,904
Houston: 221,613
San Francisco: 192,090
Phoenix: 139,773
Dallas: 136,065
San Jose: 131,724
Philadelphia:113,090
Boston: 90,027
Washington: 85,275


....that is, unless you wanted to word your statement a little differently.
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Old 07-22-2010, 12:48 AM
 
Location: 30-40°N 90-100°W
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I personally like raw numbers... others like percentage (often to get an ego boost or paint their cities a certain way). Raw numbers show me what is actually there that you have access to. Having lots of something else too, that brings down the percentage isn't really a factor, it is actually a plus for me. This could be a negative for others.
Okay in raw number, and going by what the person meant, it looks like it might be the Boston metropolitan area. If that area is 77.8% white and 41.5% with a bachelor's degree than if whites are average than around 32% of the area is whites with a bachelor's degree. Consider the Boston metro's size that might add up to higher numbers than NYC metro for that specific sub-group.

In percentage terms I guess there's the ones I named plus Boulder, Colorado and Ithaca, New York as the census lists them as their own metros. Boulder and Ithaca look about the best educated regardless of race, but both are around 80% white.
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Old 07-22-2010, 01:01 AM
 
Location: DC
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Does anyone know what major city has the highest educated white population based on a college education?
To answer your question:

CSAs by Bachelors Degree holding Whites age 25+

1. Washington-Baltimore-Northern Virginia, DC-MD-VA-WV CSA: 32.4% of whites

2. New York-Newark-Bridgeport, NY-NJ-CT-PA CSA: 31.3% of whites

3. San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland, CA CSA: 28.1% of whites

4. Boston-Worcester-Manchester, MA-RI-NH CSA: 26.8% of whites

5. Chicago-Naperville-Michigan City, IL-IN-WI CSA 24.9% of whites

6. Los Angeles-Long Beach-Riverside, CA CSA: 15.9% of whites

Edit: "WHITE" also includes Hispanics, so the data is still off since it Hispanic population brings down these percentages in areas with many Hispanics.

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Old 07-22-2010, 01:45 AM
 
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WRONG

Cities by # of 25+ year olds with bachelors degrees

New York City: 1,076,049
Los Angeles: 462,701
Chicago: 319,904
Houston: 221,613
San Francisco: 192,090
Phoenix: 139,773
Dallas: 136,065
San Jose: 131,724
Philadelphia:113,090
Boston: 90,027
Washington: 85,275


....that is, unless you wanted to word your statement a little differently.
If you would of read the thread all the way through you can see I am talking about PERCENTAGE. If you bothered to check out the link on the first page you would of seen that New York doesn't even crack the top 20 PERCENTAGE wise for people with college degrees. I was merely defining what "educated city" meant (people holding college degrees).

and no I don't want to word my statment differently
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Old 07-22-2010, 11:19 AM
 
Location: roaming gnome
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I perfer percentages. Ofcourse by raw numbers New York is going to be up there, the city has 8 million people for god sakes! However if you were in Seattle of SF you have a FAR more likely chance of running into someone who has a college degree than in New York. Over half of the residents in Seattle and SF hold college degrees.

So for instance the top 20 ends at 33 percent so I am not sure where New York is on the list but lets say oh 27 percent so that means just over 2 million people out of 8 million hold a degee in NY...so if my math is correct that leaves about 75% of city residents without a college degree. Correct me if I am wrong, math was never my strongest subject. In Seattle there are 600,000 residents and 300,000 of them have degrees, in SF 400,000 of the 800,000 have college degrees.
I do not understand your logic at all. It is not as if in the city that people randomly walk around and "bump" into certain people like molecules or balls on a pool table. They work at certain employers, they are in certain social groups, they are in certain high income neighborhoods, etc. Cities are highly organized society, and "running into someone" is not based on any random # generator set as a percentage of an arbitrary city limit, and small or large population data that it is gathered from.

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Old 07-22-2010, 11:37 AM
 
Location: Northridge, Los Angeles, CA
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To answer your question:

CSAs by Bachelors Degree holding Whites age 25+

1. Washington-Baltimore-Northern Virginia, DC-MD-VA-WV CSA: 32.4% of whites

2. New York-Newark-Bridgeport, NY-NJ-CT-PA CSA: 31.3% of whites

3. San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland, CA CSA: 28.1% of whites

4. Boston-Worcester-Manchester, MA-RI-NH CSA: 26.8% of whites

5. Chicago-Naperville-Michigan City, IL-IN-WI CSA 24.9% of whites

6. Los Angeles-Long Beach-Riverside, CA CSA: 15.9% of whites

Edit: "WHITE" also includes Hispanics, so the data is still off since it Hispanic population brings down these percentages in areas with many Hispanics.
Source? I didn't know that the US Census Bureau begun keeping track of who has a Bachelor's Degree BY RACE in each CSA. Or at least your methodology of how you got these numbers.
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Old 07-22-2010, 11:55 AM
 
Location: Denver Colorado
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Boulder Colorado census stats.

Bachelor's degree or higher
68.9%
White
88.0%

New York City and DC don't have anything on Boulder Colorado
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Old 07-22-2010, 12:07 PM
 
Location: St Paul, MN - NJ's Gold Coast
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Boulder Colorado census stats.

Bachelor's degree or higher
68.9%
White
88.0%

New York City and DC don't have anything on Boulder Colorado
Good point.
But Boulder is a college town with little over 90K people- Is that a msa stat, or city limits only?
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