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I find city populations irrelevant. Just because a city's limits are sprawling out to the size of the whole entire county does not really make it a "big city" in terms of what people generally classify as one. Especially when comparing some of the largest cities in the US like San Antonio and Indianapolis which are not really on the international radar at all. Houston has a long way to go to climb ahead of Washington DC and the San Francisco Bay area in terms of metro area and international noteriety even though it's the 4th largest city in the US, it really doesn't feel like it is.
It will be interesting however to see if Phoenix metro overtakes Boston's metro population.
I find city populations irrelevant. Just because a city's limits are sprawling out to the size of the whole entire county does not really make it a "big city" in terms of what people generally classify as one. Especially when comparing some of the largest cities in the US like San Antonio and Indianapolis which are not really on the international radar at all. Houston has a long way to go to climb ahead of Washington DC and the San Francisco Bay area in terms of metro area and international noteriety even though it's the 4th largest city in the US, it really doesn't feel like it is.
It will be interesting however to see if Phoenix metro overtakes Boston's metro population.
But what if they get like Los Angeles? Houston's on the international scene as well. Both cities with huge land areas compared to Boston or Philadelphia, but still have notoriety. Personally, I like what Indianapolis did.
I find city populations irrelevant. Just because a city's limits are sprawling out to the size of the whole entire county does not really make it a "big city" in terms of what people generally classify as one. Especially when comparing some of the largest cities in the US like San Antonio and Indianapolis which are not really on the international radar at all. Houston has a long way to go to climb ahead of Washington DC and the San Francisco Bay area in terms of metro area and international noteriety even though it's the 4th largest city in the US, it really doesn't feel like it is.
It will be interesting however to see if Phoenix metro overtakes Boston's metro population.
I always thought it would be interesting to compare cities based on a 7K or 10K plus metric - City neighborhoods tend to feel suburban below that, at least to me
But on here there are the density/"big city" folk and the build/expand till you qualify folks. Overall I am happy to see much more construction in the middle, a step in the right direction.
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I always thought it would be interesting to compare cities based on a 7K or 10K plus metric - City neighborhoods tend to feel suburban below that, at least to me
But on here there are the density/"big city" folk and the build/expand till you qualify folks. Overall I am happy to see much more construction in the middle, a step in the right direction.
I think Seattle and Portland fall into that category. They both have dense urban city cores with great downtowns and decent transit with a mix of urban/suburban neighborhoods within the cities. A perfect blend of trendy urban ammentities and walkable neighborhoods minus the strip malls, yet somewhat suburban leafy neighborhoods with plenty of elbow room and not too crowded.
I think Seattle and Portland fall into that category. They both have dense urban city cores with great downtowns and decent transit with a mix of urban/suburban neighborhoods within the cities. A perfect blend of trendy urban ammentities and walkable neighborhoods minus the strip malls, yet somewhat suburban leafy neighborhoods with plenty of elbow room and not too crowded.
would agree - somehow the highways there don't seem as obtrusive, I am not sure what it is but highways seem to drain vibrancy, like the modern version of the berlin wall, at the street level you can't get there from here
Location: northern Vermont - previously NM, WA, & MA
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All your arguments are irrelevant! This will happen first
2012
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Except for Houston overtaking Philadelphia. However, let's wait until the census results come out next June for that one. That will be before 2012
Thank you for enlightening us. I think today I will start scouting out some caves in Montana (I was denied entry into Cheyene Mountain) to ensure survival. Perhaps we could change the tune of this thread to which ones will survive cataclysmic disasters, wait no, then the thread would surely be closed. Dang!
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would agree - somehow the highways there don't seem as obtrusive, I am not sure what it is but highways seem to drain vibrancy, like the modern version of the berlin wall, at the street level you can't get there from here
Boston got lucky by burying it's highway knocking down the big green ugly monstrosity that was the Central Artery on I-93. It's been replaced by the Rose Kennedy Greenway which is an awesome lid park with fountains and gardens. However the price tag has still yet to be summed up as it's estimated somewhere between 16-20 billion dollars. It will probably take a generation to clear that debt. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rose_Kennedy_Greenway
Seattle wants a simalar project burying the Alaskan Way Viaduct (WA SH 99), with a tunnelled freeway beneath landfill in a seismicly active area. They propose a lid park right along the downtown waterfront on Puget Sound. Clearly an astronomicly expensive engineering undertaking that could rival Boston's Big Dig in terms of cost. The project in Seattle looks awesome on the screen or on paper, but I wonder if Seattle realises the cost and years it will take to complete it. Also I bet Seattlites would miss the drive on the top deck of the viaduct cruising past the urban jungle downtown (albeit a brief 1.5 miles) and the mountains over the water on the other side. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propose...an_Way_Viaduct
According to the 2010 metro estimates Orlando is ranked the 26th largest and Cleveland is ranked the 29th largest, so its quite possible that Orlando has already over taken Cleveland.
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