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st. louis is much more urban than minneapolis and has been a lot larger for the majority of its history. as such, it would be a stretch to argue that minneapolis has more to offer overall.
I agree.
A Minneapolis - St. Louis thread would be a bit more interesting.
Minnesota is more liberal I'd think, though I don't think it has had a Democratic governor since the 1960s (unless you count a couple of the democratic-farmer-whatever people, I don't know what they are) .
I know it was two years ago, and all, but as long as we've already resurrected a dead thread:
DFL is just Minnesota's arm of the democratic party; they are the exact same thing. So, yes: we have had democratic governors since 1960-- 5 of them, in fact, including the current one...
It's just not even close. I'm sure there are cool spots worth visiting, but Mpls dwarfs KC in number of bustling urban districts (top ten walkable city on Walkscore), mass transit, and bike-friendliness (Portland's our only real competition): which is why it was one of few options out of the cities I considered moving to that isn't on the coasts. Mpls is a truly liberal city and you see this in the physical form of the city itself. With twice as many walkable neighborhoods that are denser it's no surprise here's more here.
I'm as big a kcmo supporter as there is and Mpls is just in a different tier now. That's not to say that KC doesn't offer a lot because I think it does, but honestly I would much prefer the twin cities area over KC.
st. louis is much more urban than minneapolis and has been a lot larger for the majority of its history. as such, it would be a stretch to argue that minneapolis has more to offer overall.
Hmmm....I read the chart, and it didn't look to me like St. Louis's urbanized area was "a lot" larger until 1950. St. Louis might be structurally denser-- it certainly has different architecture. Minneapolis has pretty much 0 rowhouse residential stock, but it really holds its own for brownstone/brick apartments, duplexes, etc. (which were built around the extensive streetcar lines), as well as more recently built condo and apartment towers.
Although I agree that St. Louis has more history, people have this impression of Minneapolis that it is a "new" city, with more in common with the Sun Belt than the rest of the Midwest, in terms of its urban development. That really couldn't be further from the truth....
Hmmm....I read the chart, and it didn't look to me like St. Louis's urbanized area was "a lot" larger until 1950. St. Louis might be structurally denser-- it certainly has different architecture. Minneapolis has pretty much 0 rowhouse residential stock, but it really holds its own for brownstone/brick apartments, duplexes, etc. (which were built around the extensive streetcar lines), as well as more recently built condo and apartment towers.
Although I agree that St. Louis has more history, people have this impression of Minneapolis that it is a "new" city, with more in common with the Sun Belt than the rest of the Midwest, in terms of its urban development. That really couldn't be further from the truth....
Minneapolis = sunbelt? I would have never thought that. I guess you might think that if you have never been there, I don't know.
Minneapolis = sunbelt? I would have never thought that. I guess you might think that if you have never been there, I don't know.
In terms of architectural style/urban fabric, I mean. People seem to think it's a bunch of ranch houses and split levels and cul-de-sacs and huge lots. It's not; most of the housing stock isn't much newer than anywhere else in the Midwest-- some of it is older, in fact...
I think KC is underrated on here. Why do some instist that there isn't anything to do there? I'm sure it has everything that Minneapolis has.
I spent two nights in Kansas City and loved it. It is a great city and extremely underrated. Still, I think Minneapolis has more to offer overall.
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