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^whatever makes you feel good. just because my ex is from the north suburbs doesn't mean i am not familiar with the city. lest you forget i come from philadelphia and am currently living in st. louis-- two cities that are not exactly known to be whitebread, wholesome safe havens. chicago is not intimidating in the least and that's why it's such a magnet for farm kids and suburbanites from all over the midwest.
I don't think it's bad that you consider Chicago to be friendly. People are generally more polite than Philadelphi, to be sure.
But realistic question: where do all of these "farm boys and suburbanites" move to in Chicago?
There are many parts of the city where people will f*** you up because you wear your hat to the wrong side...
There are many parts of the city where people will f*** you up because you wear your hat to the wrong side...
that is true of every major city in the country, not just chicago.
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I don't think it's bad that you consider Chicago to be friendly. People are generally more polite than Philadelphi, to be sure.
without a doubt.
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But realistic question: where do all of these "farm boys and suburbanites" move to in Chicago?
walk through lincoln park, lakeview or any host of north side neighborhoods: you will see more license plates from neighboring midwest states than from illinois. most of these kids moved to chicago right from college, hoping for their first taste of "life in the big city," yet they have created safe and sanitized enclaves of people just like them. that's not necessarily a bad thing; there is room for everyone. those particular north side neighborhoods are not what i'd consider "tough" by any stretch. and don't get me started on the trixies.
that is true of every major city in the country, not just chicago.
without a doubt.
walk through lincoln park, lakeview or any host of north side neighborhoods: you will see more license plates from neighboring midwest states than from illinois. most of these kids moved to chicago right from college, hoping for their first taste of "life in the big city," yet they have created safe and sanitized enclaves of people just like them. that's not necessarily a bad thing; there is room for everyone. those particular north side neighborhoods are not what i'd consider "tough" by any stretch. and don't get me started on the trixies.
i just don't understand why anyone would be offended by someone calling his/her city friendly. it defies logic.
Na, Thats only a Chicago thing. Wearing your hat the wrong way in the wrong neighborhood or street, can get you F***ed up depending on how you look and your demeanor of course.
It nice that you think Chicagoans are friendly. There is nothing wrong with that. Chicago does have a reputation for being a "tough city" tho and still hasnt shaken that label off yet.
that is true of every major city in the country, not just chicago.
without a doubt.
walk through lincoln park, lakeview or any host of north side neighborhoods: you will see more license plates from neighboring midwest states than from illinois. most of these kids moved to chicago right from college, hoping for their first taste of "life in the big city," yet they have created safe and sanitized enclaves of people just like them. that's not necessarily a bad thing; there is room for everyone. those particular north side neighborhoods are not what i'd consider "tough" by any stretch. and don't get me started on the trixies.
i just don't understand why anyone would be offended by someone calling his/her city friendly. it defies logic.
To your first point, no it's not. Chicago's gang culture is very particular about how you wear your clothes in certain neighborhoods. And Chicago has perfected the gang culture more than any other city besides Los Angeles...but you probably don't see that in Wrigleyville
And as to the second point, EXACTLY. Those kinds of safe/sanitized Disney-esque neighborhoods exist in America's biggest cities. Look at Chicago's demographics -- the vast majority of people don't live in those specific North Side neighborhoods. (In a sense, they are not the "REAL CHICAGO"). Even most of the North Side is not like Lincoln Park lol. I think you might need to take a real tour of Chicago.
you missed my point. i didn't say the entire city of chicago is comprised of trixies and suburban kids. i said there are several neighborhoods there that attract them, in contrast to many other cities in the midwest. if they live in the city of chicago, they are just as much part of the "real chicago" as the gangbangers and street hustlers you guys are so proud of. you can't pick and choose the type of people who represent your city based on your own preferences.
telling me i need a tour of the "real chicago" is ridiculous. so i need to spend time in the city's worst neighborhoods in order to draw conclusions about the city's "toughness"? do you seriously think i haven't seen bad neighborhoods? i've seen some awful south side neighborhoods there. as someone who appreciates urban decay, i've been through back-of-the-yards and a number of other south and west side neighborhoods. every city has terrible, scary neighborhoods. i'll remind you that both my hometown and the city i'm currently living in both have higher crime rates than chicago, if that earns me anymore street cred in your warped sense of reality. that doesn't change my mind about anything i've said here. i'd bet most people who visit chicago don't leave with the impression, "what a tough city." is that your goal or something? the days of al capone are long gone. chicago is a very welcoming, inviting and friendly city, and that's why it is vibrant and fun to visit.
regarding looking at someone wrong, please tell me you are not saying that chicago is the only city with gang culture. gang identity is characterized by a code of colors, tattoos, territories, gestures and symbols. if you seriously think chicago is the only city in the country where you have to watch what you wear, say or flash in order to avoid trouble, then it is you who needs to travel more, not me. i would be embarrassed to post something so foolish. there are parts of chicago where that is a problem, but that is far from being exclusively a "chicago thing." i guarantee you the average person would pi$$ his/her pants just as easily in the "badlands" of north philly, camden or east st. louis just as they would in certain parts of chicago.
i apologize for calling chicago friendly. apparently you "tough guys" don't like that. please don't hurt me!
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