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I agree a school doesn't automatically make a city world class what so ever. However Boston does have it's merits. A high quality of living, a strong economy (one that is very much related to there stellar schools), good places to eat, a lot of history. I think if you add all these things up Boston can make a strong case of being a very world-class boutique city.
Out of this list though, I still think Atlanta has the best chance of maturing a bit more into a world class city. I honestly don't think it is as close as some people try to make it out to be. I have been to Atlanta twice, and both times I went with southerns and they def gave me the impression that Hotlanta is the big city of dixieland.
Because artists hate the outdoors, they're bookworms, really, they just can't stand living in cities with cheap quality alcohol and now even legal weed. Yep, it makes plenty of sense why artists, who have always been the most straitlaced and square among us will be turned off by this heathen pleasure dome out west. Whatever list you're looking at that says it's not in the top 20 of vibrant, living arts culture in the US is likely at least a decade old, unless you've made it up yourself. High incomes of potential patrons, the easy to find straight gigs, the lifestyle, and all the urban amenities have made it a very popular relocation place for US and international artists in the last few years, just as it's a popular relocation place for everybody else.
Not counting Aspen and a few other mountain festivals outside the metro, it's lagging a bit in the performing arts still, but otherwise it's very strong.
Nothing you write here does anything to explain why Denver would be comparable to Barcelona and a global cultural heavyweight.
I mean, seriously? High incomes? Huh? What does that have to do with cultural vibrancy?
Urban amenities? What city outside the U.S. is less urban than Denver? Is there even one? Outside of NYC, no U.S. city can match up with or surpass Barcelona in urban amenities.
Nothing you write here does anything to explain why Denver would be comparable to Barcelona and a global cultural heavyweight.
I mean, seriously? High incomes? Huh? What does that have to do with cultural vibrancy?
Urban amenities? What city outside the U.S. is less urban than Denver? Is there even one? Outside of NYC, no U.S. city can match up with or surpass Barcelona in urban amenities.
Someone on this thread claimed that Denver is comparable to Barcelona?
I guess we might as well compare Salt Lake City to London.
World-Class or being of the highest caliber in the world. For the most part this means comparing the cities here to those in Europe and that's rather like apples to oranges. The first thing that came to mind about many on the list was the amount of crime they have. The other thing I immediately thought of was that World-class made the list of overused words.
World-Class based on what exactly? Livability perhaps? Well that depends on where ya sit. For those living in the Camps Bay area of Cape Town life differs greatly from those living in the Cape Flats. The worker bee's continue to get squeezed, and are very angry at the way the country continues to go. But it's a beautiful city and certainly a nice place to visit and live especially if you're loaded.
It does seem this thread is more speaking of which cities are growing and progressing the fastest and have features that attract folks to the city.
Tampa Bay fails to make it in here again but guess what that's ok. More space for me when I move back there! I thank god people aren't moving in droves there like they are to Denver or Houston or Phoenix now but I don't want to let that secret out so shh.
Nothing you write here does anything to explain why Denver would be comparable to Barcelona and a global cultural heavyweight.
I mean, seriously? High incomes? Huh? What does that have to do with cultural vibrancy?
Urban amenities? What city outside the U.S. is less urban than Denver? Is there even one? Outside of NYC, no U.S. city can match up with or surpass Barcelona in urban amenities.
You seriously don't understand the correlation between high incomes and high culture? I'm just as incredulous of you as you are of me, here. Art isn't cheap, it never has been. Florence didn't become Florence because artists went there for the architecture. They went for the Medici's money. Artists don't make a living selling only to other artists. Because of this, as a city's incomes rise, the quality of its arts rapidly rise with them. This happened in Dallas a bit over 20 years ago. It used to be as much the hick town you seem to see Denver as, and then overnight, everybody had to be there, it seemed everyone in NY and LA had some piece of art from Texas.
Denver's undergoing a similar transformation culturally. This gives it cultural vibrancy. Artists want to be there and more and more are relocating. It means those of us that deal in the contemporary arts have to deal more and more with Denver the last few years. There's no other city in the US that's currently moving like this in my field, except perhaps Minneapolis because of large grants making organizations there like the Jerome Foundation. You don't have to believe me, I hope many don't because it's also creating a bit of a lucrative arbitrage situation.
Denver's more dense than Chicago and Washington D.C. (see http://cltblog.com/files/2014/01/cox-charlotte-1.png ) Yes, it's an American city which by default will be less dense than global cities, but that doesn't mean as much in terms of vibrancy as income and the amount of artists.
You seriously don't understand the correlation between high incomes and high culture? I'm just as incredulous of you as you are of me, here. Art isn't cheap, it never has been. Florence didn't become Florence because artists went there for the architecture. They went for the Medici's money. Artists don't make a living selling only to other artists. Because of this, as a city's incomes rise, the quality of its arts rapidly rise with them. This happened in Dallas a bit over 20 years ago. It used to be as much the hick town you seem to see Denver as, and then overnight, everybody had to be there, it seemed everyone in NY and LA had some piece of art from Texas.
Denver's undergoing a similar transformation culturally. This gives it cultural vibrancy. Artists want to be there and more and more are relocating. It means those of us that deal in the contemporary arts have to deal more and more with Denver the last few years. There's no other city in the US that's currently moving like this in my field, except perhaps Minneapolis because of large grants making organizations there like the Jerome Foundation. You don't have to believe me, I hope many don't because it's also creating a bit of a lucrative arbitrage situation.
Denver's more dense than Chicago and Washington D.C. (see http://cltblog.com/files/2014/01/cox-charlotte-1.png ) Yes, it's an American city which by default will be less dense than global cities, but that doesn't mean as much in terms of vibrancy as income and the amount of artists.
Denver is not more dense than Chicago and DC..... Absurd. The list you posted included DC and its suburbs not the city itself.... Read.
I've been talking about urban areas, meaning cities and suburbs. City limits mean little to me.
The list you showed is only counting denver and not its suburbs. The list is showing DC suburbs and Chicago suburbs. So therefore your statement is WRONG. Denver is not more dense than DC or Chicago.... Can you read?
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