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Did NYC really price out crime? Still a lot of poverty there.
Compare with Chicago:
New York City: 20.1%
Chicago: 21.6%
And considering New York City has higher housing costs, being poor there is more painful. And New York City contains the poorest congressional district in the country.
That was my point exactly. I don't think "NYC priced out its crime" as one of posters form Chicago claimed, I don't think city government can actually do such a thing. Government does not control rent prices and cant simply raise them by a decree or any action. The only way to raise prices is to improve the area sto make it attractive to affluent renters who are willing to spend more on rent than current residents.
Affluent renters however will not just move into a ghetto...
Problem of crime that NYC experienced in the 80's and early 90's has been solved by city government through many actions in parallel, more importantly eradicating crime and improving city services.
It's a long road but it is worth it as the wealth trickles down to all the areas of the city. NYC in 2012 is nothing like NYC in 1980. It's a different reality altogether.
i'm surprised everyone is still feeding this guy ammo and responding to him...
he has a complex about chicago and is obsessed with it - we get it. What's the point of going in circles over and over.
What's the point of posting off-topic messages like the one above? You don't want to participate in a discussion with somebody then don't respond, you don't find the topic interesting then don't respond.
Post like your are as bad as trolling as they do not add any value to the discussion only take up space in the thread. Restrain yourself....
Really? Millennium Park feels nothing like anything in New York, and it's very well done in its own way. I like New York better than Chicago but this is silly. I doubt Chicago was consciously thinking deeply about mimicking New York when it built New York, it was just trying to improve the attractiveness of the city center.
Nobody is saying Chicago was trying to mimick anything in the same time Millennium Park, The Bean, McCormick are all attempts to turn Chicago into a tourist destination and rival New York...
Chicago is not really famous for display of fine art in public places while New York is full of statues, monuments, arches etc. The Bean is Chicago answer to that.
Consciously or not, Chicago tried to compete as a tourist destination and change its image from an industrial, gritty town to more cultured, more artsy and "New York-ish"
Most New Yorkers can't assume anything since they never been to Chicago: there is no good reason for any New Yorker to go to Chicago, its not like Chicago is some tourist or cultural attraction on the scale of New York.
Since unlike most people I have been to Chicago I can attest that Chicago since the 90's really tried to become another New York: Millenium Park, the Bean i.e. big, developed parks and promenades and art in public spaces is more typical for New York than Chicago, i.e. are present in New York since Central Park and Statue of Liberty have been put in place.
Of course Chicagoans will never admit that but Chicago has been trying to outdo New York for a long time.
Even this forum can be a proof when people claim Chicago culture, arts or entertainment are on par with New York's.
Unfortunately for Chicago, New York is a still growing and very successful while Chicago is not...
New York is generally considered one of the top three cultural experiences of the Western World while Chicago is not.
When New Yorkers think about competition they usually think about London not Chicago
Chicago has not now or ever tried to be New York. Chicago has larger open spaces than New York.
You are a bad troll and should be embarrassed for the many holes and mistakes in your posts.
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Originally Posted by nei
Really? Millennium Park feels nothing like anything in New York, and it's very well done in its own way. I like New York better than Chicago but this is silly. I doubt Chicago was consciously thinking deeply about mimicking New York when it built New York, it was just trying to improve the attractiveness of the city center.
It worked well. My mother works in Midtown Manhattan and thought highly of it. "I had something like that near me I would go to it in my lunch hour". Also, Boston Common and Millennium Park are an interesting contrast of old and new city center park; two areas feel like complete opposite.
Well said.
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Originally Posted by rebel12
Nobody is saying Chicago was trying to mimick anything in the same time Millennium Park, The Bean, McCormick are all attempts to turn Chicago into a tourist destination and rival New York...
Chicago is not really famous for display of fine art in public places while New York is full of statues, monuments, arches etc. The Bean is Chicago answer to that.
Consciously or not, Chicago tried to compete as a tourist destination and change its image from an industrial, gritty town to more cultured, more artsy and "New York-ish"
No, Chicago did not. Chicago has always wanted space for its citizens to go and enjoy. Look at the lakefront and you will not see the same anywhere else. In fact it is other cities that have tried to imitate Chicago with their public space. Chicago has always had a different mission than New York, that has been obvious to most.
No, Chicago did not. Chicago has always wanted space for its citizens to go and enjoy. Look at the lakefront and you will not see the same anywhere else. In fact it is other cities that have tried to imitate Chicago with their public space. Chicago has always had a different mission than New York, that has been obvious to most.
And what exacrly is that mysterious Chicago mission that is so different to New Yorks? Have you ever been to New York?
No, you are supposed to know everything about Chicago and what they want. You posting this shows your naivete and insecurity.
I do and i know there is no mission
I am only asking cause i wonder where will go with this nonsense
Chicago always tries to compete with Nee York, funny cause New Yorkers are not even aware of that competition.
Only when in Chicago you can hear people say things like Chicago offers as much as Nee York, Chicago id cleaner and safer and people are nicer.
Tell a Chicagoand that you are from New York and he will not shut about how Chicago compares (favorably of course) with New York...
Dude's on a loop. Everyone knows NYC is peerless but seriously can it already.
They're probably 15 and think they are cool. Look at the massive amount of spelling and grammar errors.
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