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Please cite your source for this...I only ask because if San Jose is there, then so should Oakland cause it has a higher % of Bachelor's and Graduate Degrees than San Jose.
Portland # 5 Where do these people that rate these cities get their figures from. It obviously is not a majority of the population they base their figures on. Portland barely finances its schools. It has more drugged out uneducated people, than any major city I have been to in America. What a crock.
Please cite your source for this...I only ask because if San Jose is there, then so should Oakland cause it has a higher % of Bachelor's and Graduate Degrees than San Jose.
Seattle may have a higher proportion of academics, but San Diego is definitely no slouch.
San Diego is a very brainy city-2nd only to San Francisco when it comes to educational attainment at the Bachelor and Graduate level among California's largest cities, and the city's % of college degrees is well above the national average.
The Academic Ranking of World Universities, which ranks Universities solely on academics and their research institutions named UC San Diego the 15th best University in the world. Top Universities in the World, 2010
1 Harvard, USA
2 UC Berkeley, USA
3 Stanford, USA
4 MIT, USA
5 U. Cambridge, UK
6 Cal Tech, USA
7 Princeton, USA
8 Columbia, USA
9 U. Chicago, USA
10 Oxford, UK
11 Yale, USA
12 Cornell, USA
13 UC Los Angeles, USA 14 UC San Diego, USA 15 U. Pennsylvania, USA
16 U. Washington, USA
17 U. Wisconsin, Madison, USA
18 Johns Hopkins, USA
19 UC San Francisco, USA
20 U. Tokyo, Japan ARWU 2010
1 Harvard University United States
96.1
2 California Institute of Technology United States
96.0
3 Massachusetts Institute of Technology United States
95.6
4 Stanford University United States
94.3
5 Princeton University United States
94.2
6 University of Cambridge United Kingdom
91.2
6 University of Oxford United Kingdom
91.2
8 University of California Berkeley United States
91.1
9 Imperial College London United Kingdom
90.6
10 Yale University United States
89.5
11 University of California Los Angeles United States
87.7
12 University of Chicago United States
86.9
13 Johns Hopkins University United States
86.4
14 Cornell University United States
83.9
15 Swiss Federal Institute of Technology Zurich Switzerland
83.4
15 University of Michigan United States
83.4
17 University of Toronto Canada
82.0
18 Columbia University United States
81.0
19 University of Pennsylvania United States
79.5
20 Carnegie Mellon University United States
79.3
21 University of Hong Kong Hong Kong
79.2
22 University College London United Kingdom
78.4 23 University of Washington United States
78.0
24 Duke University United States
76.5
25 Northwestern University United States
75.9
26 University of Tokyo Japan
75.6
27 Georgia Institute of Technology United States
75.3
28 Pohang University of Science and Technology Republic of Korea
75.1
29 University of California Santa Barbara United States
75.0
30 University of British Columbia Canada
73.8
30 University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill United States
73.8 32 University of California San Diego United States
The methodology used by the Time and USNews is too fluffy imo because they dilute actual academic achievement with thing such as income and reputation and even the number of countries that students come from, which quite frankly, from a research standpoint-are totally unnecessary.
Still by any standard, the U. of Washington is one of the best public universities in the world--but then, so is UC San Diego.
At the very top of the graduate rankings, SD does quite well.
US News and World Report 2009 Ranking of Graduate Schools
Best Medical Schools
1 Harvard
2 Johns Hopkins
3 Washington U. in St. Louis
4 U. of Pennsylvania
5 U. of California, San Francisco
6-tie Duke
6-tie U. of Washington
8 Stanford
9-tie U. of California, Los Angeles
9-tie Yale
11-tie Columbia
11-tie U. of Michigan, Ann Arbor
12 Baylor 14-tie U. of California, San Diego
14-tie U. of Pittsburgh
Best Engineering Schools
1 MIT
2 Stanford
3 U. of California, Berkeley
4 Georgia Tech
5 U. of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign
6 Cal Tech
7 Carnegie Mellon
8 U. of California, Los Angeles(Viterbi)
9-tie Cornell
9 U. of Michigan, Ann Arbor 11 U. of California, San Diego 13-tie Texas A&M
13-tie U. of California, Los Angeles(Samueli)
15-tie Purdue
15-tie U. of Wisconsin, Madison
Best Biological Sciences Schools
1 Stanford
2-tie MIT
2-tie U. of California, Berkeley
4-tie Cal Tech
4-tie Harvard
6 Johns Hopkins
7-tie Rockefeller U. 7-tie Scripps Research Institute(CA)
7-tie U. of California, San Francisco
7-tie Yale
12-tie Cornell
12-tie Duke
12-tie Princeton
15-tie Columbia
15-tie U. of Michigan, Ann Arbor
15-tie U. of Wisconsin, Madison
Best Chemistry Schools
1-tie Cal Tech
1-tie MIT
1-tie Stanford
1-tie U. of California, Berkeley
5 Harvard 6 Scripps Research Institute(CA)
7-tie U. of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign
7-tie U. of Wisconsin, Madison
9-tie Cornell
9-tie Northwestern
11 Columbia
12-tie U. of California, Los Angeles
12-tie U. of Chicago
12-tie U. of Texas, Austin
15 Yale
Best Earth Science Schools
1 Cal Tech
2-tie MIT
2-tie Stanford
4 U. of California, Berkeley
5-tie Columbia
5-tie U. of Michigan, Ann Arbor
7 Pennsylvania State U., University Park
8 U. of Arizona
9 Harvard
9 U. of Texas, Austin
11-tie Princeton
11-tie U. of California, Los Angeles
11-tie U. of Washington
11-tie Yale
15-tie Cornell 15-tie U. of California, San Diego
15-tie U. of Chicago
15-tie U. of Wisconsin, Madison
Thanks everyone. I really appreciate all the input. I know San Diego is sunny but honestly I hate temperatures over 80 and avoid the sun because I dont want wrinkles. My husband and I never go to the beach or lay by the pool. I love the rain and it doesnt bother my husband. A little snow might be nice but not so much that roads are all shut down. Im honestly thinking Seattle is the better choice for me. But please, keep the advice coming!
What little snow that occurs in Seattle is hardly a concern. Seattle is further north than New York or Washington DC yet has much milder winters and snowfall is generally very light if at all. But outside Seattle in the higher elevations it does snow regularly. Personally, as a fellow Californian I think living in an area that gets snow would be really fun.
Your comment about earthquakes in San Diego is correct but that area of California is considered one of the least earthquake prone regions in the state. San Diego hasn't had the kind of major earthquakes both LA and San Francisco experience. Also Seattle is on active fault lines and is considered at risk for a seriously bad earthquake; so keep that in mind.
At the very top of the graduate rankings, SD does quite well.
US News and World Report 2009 Ranking of Graduate Schools
Best Medical Schools
1 Harvard
2 Johns Hopkins
3 Washington U. in St. Louis
4 U. of Pennsylvania
5 U. of California, San Francisco
6-tie Duke
6-tie U. of Washington
8 Stanford
9-tie U. of California, Los Angeles
9-tie Yale
11-tie Columbia
11-tie U. of Michigan, Ann Arbor
12 Baylor 14-tie U. of California, San Diego
14-tie U. of Pittsburgh
Best Engineering Schools
1 MIT
2 Stanford
3 U. of California, Berkeley
4 Georgia Tech
5 U. of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign
6 Cal Tech
7 Carnegie Mellon
8 U. of California, Los Angeles(Viterbi)
9-tie Cornell
9 U. of Michigan, Ann Arbor 11 U. of California, San Diego 13-tie Texas A&M
13-tie U. of California, Los Angeles(Samueli)
15-tie Purdue
15-tie U. of Wisconsin, Madison
Best Biological Sciences Schools
1 Stanford
2-tie MIT
2-tie U. of California, Berkeley
4-tie Cal Tech
4-tie Harvard
6 Johns Hopkins
7-tie Rockefeller U. 7-tie Scripps Research Institute(CA)
7-tie U. of California, San Francisco
7-tie Yale
12-tie Cornell
12-tie Duke
12-tie Princeton
15-tie Columbia
15-tie U. of Michigan, Ann Arbor
15-tie U. of Wisconsin, Madison
Best Chemistry Schools
1-tie Cal Tech
1-tie MIT
1-tie Stanford
1-tie U. of California, Berkeley
5 Harvard 6 Scripps Research Institute(CA)
7-tie U. of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign
7-tie U. of Wisconsin, Madison
9-tie Cornell
9-tie Northwestern
11 Columbia
12-tie U. of California, Los Angeles
12-tie U. of Chicago
12-tie U. of Texas, Austin
15 Yale
Best Earth Science Schools
1 Cal Tech
2-tie MIT
2-tie Stanford
4 U. of California, Berkeley
5-tie Columbia
5-tie U. of Michigan, Ann Arbor
7 Pennsylvania State U., University Park
8 U. of Arizona
9 Harvard
9 U. of Texas, Austin
11-tie Princeton
11-tie U. of California, Los Angeles
11-tie U. of Washington
11-tie Yale
15-tie Cornell 15-tie U. of California, San Diego
15-tie U. of Chicago
15-tie U. of Wisconsin, Madison
I think it's fair to say that both UCSD and UW are on a par with one another. UW is highly rated for many of their schools. As a matter of fact, their school for "general practioners" rates highest in the land. Yes, even higher than Harvard etc...
So how is Seattle a "real city" when it's less dense than LA? Places like LA and SD also have a much larger and older rail system than Seattle's, which is barely a year old. You'd think a "real city" like Seattle would be denser and have an older, more expansive rail network than a suburb like LA.
Seattle is a real city because people actually use this thing called a downtown, ever heard of it San Diegan? Downtowns are myths in Southern California it seems; I was highly disappointed with both L.A and S.D.
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So what does it say what type of city Seattle is given the Sonics ALREADY left for OKLAHOMA CITY?
take a look at this everyone; its a southern californian talking about Seattle losing NBA team. LOL lets look at all the teams southern california cities have lost; S.D lost the Rockets, Clippers, and about to lose Chargers. L.A lost; Raiders, Rams, Chargers, and due to L.A's pathetic economy they lost the L.A Riptide [LOL].
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At least LA would be a larger media market IF the Chargers left, which they won't.
Ok; so sav858 doesn't want Chargers to move someone notify the Chargers management they wont be moving anymore because sav858 says so. LOL they are going to move to L.A they are top team for relocating to L.A Los Angeles Chargers? | NBC San Diego
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Drive down I-5 after a Raiders home game towards LA and see what I mean. There aren't any Chargers team stores in LA but there are Raiders one's still.
angelinos still go to games hundreds of miles away from L.A to a team that dumped them? LOL thats the most hilarious thing ever said on this site. HA
ever see me criticize SF? no, because it is respectable city, beautiful everything, urban everything, rich, and stylish. then I look at the other half of the state and slap my forehead and say 'how are they in same state as SF?' LOL I have known angelinos to be desperate dogs but this is news to me
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Could you possibly say something more ignorant of the facts than this?
All I said is that the Sonics left and are doing better in OKC, which it true. I don't give a crap why they left but was just pointing out more of Ghost's BS double standards with giving SD crap by assuming the Chargers are leaving for LA yet ignoring a team that has already left Seattle. Try not reading so much into my comment.
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Originally Posted by Bill Loney
You're "right". Seattle is certainly "less dense" than either LA or San Diego.
Could you be more defensive? Obviously I was talking about population density. And again I was trying to point out more of Ghost's double standards and hypocrisy; saying less dense cities like LA are suburbs yet calling a city less dense than LA a "real city". And saying Seattle has a lower population density isn't any sort of insult at all, although some of the density obsessed people here might take it as one.
Try calming down and not getting so defensive because I didn't say anything negative or untrue about Seattle. I like the city and don't have a problem with it aside from mainly the weather. That post was just mainly to show more of Ghost's hypocrisy and double standards when it comes to places.
All I said is that the Sonics left and are doing better in OKC, which it true. I don't give a crap why they left but was just pointing out more of Ghost's BS double standards with giving SD crap by assuming the Chargers are leaving for LA yet ignoring a team that has already left Seattle. Try not reading so much into my comment.
how is what I said false? Are the Chargers not one of the top relocation teams for L.A? I believe so
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Could you be more defensive? Obviously I was talking about population density. And again I was trying to point out more of Ghost's double standards and hypocrisy; saying less dense cities like LA are suburbs yet calling a city less dense than LA a "real city". And saying Seattle has a lower population density isn't any sort of insult at all, although some of the density obsessed people here might take it as one.
I know you southern californians don't know what urban cities look like but I will explain it to you better; density doesnt matter it is utilization of core; Bill Loney lives in Seattle he can post the info on downtown residence or commercial success of downtown Seattle.
L.A for its size is disgrace to any form of urban living, S.D is just a big suburb, no downtown utilization, no density, pathetic
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That post was just mainly to show more of Ghost's hypocrisy and double standards when it comes to places.
double standard? It is not my fault you cant accept truth about southern california; I have said nothing that is untrue
Simply put Seattle as city trumps S.D [suburb] as a city.
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