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View Poll Results: Who has the best theme parks?
Los Angeles 14 26.42%
Orlando 28 52.83%
San Diego 3 5.66%
Ohio 8 15.09%
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Old 03-31-2013, 05:24 PM
 
Location: Minneapolis
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Originally Posted by TheMahValley
You do realize that Cedar Point is surrounded by water on all three sides, it's what we like to call a peninsula. When Cedar Point wants to "expand", expansion comes in the form of taking down older rides and bringing in something new. I personally can't wait to ride the Gate Keeper this summer.

Also, you seem to have some problem with Cedar Fair or Cedar Point. If you believe that Carowinds is not being invested in as much as YOU see fit, why don't you write them a letter and tell them to bid fairwell to Cedar Fair. It's in Cedar Fair's best interest to invest in Cedar Point, Canada's Wonderland, and Kings Island which are their most famous and most visited parks.

Have you ever been to Cedar Point? As a roller coaster fanatic, I make it a point to go to theme parks around the country and visited places in Australia and New Zealand when I was there. Cedar Point is known around the world. I was there last year and was standing in line at the Millenium Force and met a group of five people from the Netherlands. They were talking to us about how they were going to the TTD next and this was going to be their 11th time riding it in the past three years. Cedar Point is certainly a destination theme park. Sandusky is a tourist town, has all the hotels with the large waterparks, and there is a whole new feel to it once tourist season comes into play. On Cedar Point itself you have hotels along the beach, people enjoying the beach, jet skiiers, parasailing, boat marinas, a camp ground, and a waterpark. Outside of Cedar Point and Sandusky you have Port Clinton, Marblehead, Catawba Island, Kellys Island, and Put-in-Bay. And yes, Cedar Point is a regional destination, too. I usually see more New York, PA, Michigan, and Indiana plates than Ohio plates. But it is also a draw from around the country and world, especially with Europeans.
YES, exactly! All of this, thank you!

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Originally Posted by fltonc12 View Post
You obviously didn't know some of it because you tried to tell me Cedar Point was the biggest and had the widest audience. And you're obviously missing the point of the context.

Cedar Fair can focus on Cedar Point as much as they want, but they're leaving certain parks behind.

We can agree to disagree.
I actually did know that, all of it. I follow the amusement industry very closely and have since I was about twelve years old.
Your definition of size is too closely tied to attendance figures and acreage. There's way more than that involved, and it's not something you can easily put a hard number on. Probably the most important thing you need to consider is that Cedar Point really is that famous. It definitely is, like period, no argument, end of story. People from everywhere know about Cedar Point. Maybe it's not Disneyland, but it's known all around the world. Spend one day at Cedar Point and you will meet people from all over the country. Honestly, it's probably a bigger attraction to Michiganders and Indianans than Ohioans (in my experience, people from Columbus go to Kings Island more often).

And they certainly are not leaving any of their parks behind. Let's just examine that hypothesis. Since 2006 (year of the Paramount acquisition)...

California's Great America
-water park expansions
-Zamperla Disk-O
-tons of new shows
-Firefall (from Geauga Lake)
-Haunt expansions
-Planet Snoopy retheme
-Grizzly retracking
-Gold Striker (massive new GCI wooden twister)
-general infrastructure improvements/new restaurants

Knott's Berry Farm
-Sierra Sidewinder (Mack family spinning coaster)
-Pony Express (Zamperla launched family coaster)
-2 new shows
-Windseeker
-Coast Rider (Mack wild mouse coaster)
-Surfside Glider (flying scooter)
-Pacific Scrambler (generic scrambler)
-general infrastructure improvements/new restaurants

Worlds of Fun
-Patriot (major B&M inverted coaster)
-tons of Haunt expansions
-Prowler (critically-acclaimed GCI wooden terrain coaster)
-new shows
-Planet Snoopy retheme and development
-major Oceans of Fun expansion/removal of separate gate system
-Timber Wolf retracking
-general infrastructure improvements/new restaurants

Valleyfair
-Xtreme Swing (S&S giant screamin' swing)
-Renegade (GCI wooden out-and-back twister coaster)
-improvements to Halloween event
-major redevelopment of Soak City
-Planet Snoopy retheme and development
-Dinosaurs Alive area
-general infrastructure improvements

Michigan's Adventure
-major water park improvements/expansions
-Grand Rapids (rapids ride)
-expanded train ride
-Thunderhawk (Vekoma SLC from Geauga Lake)
-general infrastructure improvements/new restaurants

Kings Island
-major redevelopments/expansions/rethemes of Nickelodeon Universe/Planet Snoopy
-Firehawk (Vekoma Flying Dutchman from Geauga Lake)
-new shows
-Diamondback (massive B&M hypercoaster)
-Windseeker
-Dinosaurs Alive area
-major water park expansions/improvements
-general infrastructure improvements/new restaurants

Cedar Point
-Skyhawk (S&S giant screamin' swing)
-new shows
-Maverick (Intamin LSM/past-vertical coaster)
-Planet Snoopy retheme/redevelopment
-Skyscraper (from Valleyfair)
-Shoot the Rapids (modern Intamin log flume)
-Windseeker
-Dinosaurs Alive area
-Gatekeeper (massive B&M wing coaster)
-redesigned front gate
-general infrastructure improvements/new restaurants
-(they also removed two of their roller coasters, one major element of their skyline, and their beloved Demon Drop)

Canada's Wonderland
-tons of new shows
-Behemoth (massive B&M hypercoaster with groundbreaking new train design)
-Planet Snoopy retheme/redevelopment
-Windseeker
-Leviathan (GIGANTIC B&M gigacoaster, 8th tallest in the world, tallest and fastest in Canada)
-Dinosaurs Alive area
-general infrastructure improvements/new restaurants
-basic rebranding of the park as something not to be overlooked (after years of Paramount neglecting)
-now tied with Cedar Point in 2nd place for the most-coasters-in-the-world record (after Magic Mountain)

Carowinds
-water park expansions/additions
-swing ride (from Geauga Lake)
-Carolina Cobra (Vekoma boomerang from Geauga Lake with groundbreaking new train design)
-Thunder Road retracking
-Hurler retracking
-Intimidator (massive B&M hypercoaster)
-Planet Snoopy retheme/redevelopment
-new shows
-Windseeker
-Dinosaurs Alive area
-major infrastructure improvements/new restaurants

Dorney Park
-Possessed (Intamin impulse coaster from Geauga Lake)
-Demon Drop (from Cedar Point)
-Stinger (Vekoma inverted boomerang from California's Great America)
-Dinosaurs Alive
-major water park improvements/development
-major reworking/expansions of Halloween event
-major infrastructure improvements

This is positively smothering them with affection when you look at, say, Six Flags, and what they do with Six Flags Magic Mountain as opposed to Six Flags America.
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Old 03-31-2013, 07:13 PM
 
Location: Charlotte
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YES, exactly! All of this, thank you!


I actually did know that, all of it. I follow the amusement industry very closely and have since I was about twelve years old.
Your definition of size is too closely tied to attendance figures and acreage. There's way more than that involved, and it's not something you can easily put a hard number on. Probably the most important thing you need to consider is that Cedar Point really is that famous. It definitely is, like period, no argument, end of story. People from everywhere know about Cedar Point. Maybe it's not Disneyland, but it's known all around the world. Spend one day at Cedar Point and you will meet people from all over the country. Honestly, it's probably a bigger attraction to Michiganders and Indianans than Ohioans (in my experience, people from Columbus go to Kings Island more often).

And they certainly are not leaving any of their parks behind. Let's just examine that hypothesis. Since 2006 (year of the Paramount acquisition)...

California's Great America
-water park expansions
-Zamperla Disk-O
-tons of new shows
-Firefall (from Geauga Lake)
-Haunt expansions
-Planet Snoopy retheme
-Grizzly retracking
-Gold Striker (massive new GCI wooden twister)
-general infrastructure improvements/new restaurants

Knott's Berry Farm
-Sierra Sidewinder (Mack family spinning coaster)
-Pony Express (Zamperla launched family coaster)
-2 new shows
-Windseeker
-Coast Rider (Mack wild mouse coaster)
-Surfside Glider (flying scooter)
-Pacific Scrambler (generic scrambler)
-general infrastructure improvements/new restaurants

Worlds of Fun
-Patriot (major B&M inverted coaster)
-tons of Haunt expansions
-Prowler (critically-acclaimed GCI wooden terrain coaster)
-new shows
-Planet Snoopy retheme and development
-major Oceans of Fun expansion/removal of separate gate system
-Timber Wolf retracking
-general infrastructure improvements/new restaurants

Valleyfair
-Xtreme Swing (S&S giant screamin' swing)
-Renegade (GCI wooden out-and-back twister coaster)
-improvements to Halloween event
-major redevelopment of Soak City
-Planet Snoopy retheme and development
-Dinosaurs Alive area
-general infrastructure improvements

Michigan's Adventure
-major water park improvements/expansions
-Grand Rapids (rapids ride)
-expanded train ride
-Thunderhawk (Vekoma SLC from Geauga Lake)
-general infrastructure improvements/new restaurants

Kings Island
-major redevelopments/expansions/rethemes of Nickelodeon Universe/Planet Snoopy
-Firehawk (Vekoma Flying Dutchman from Geauga Lake)
-new shows
-Diamondback (massive B&M hypercoaster)
-Windseeker
-Dinosaurs Alive area
-major water park expansions/improvements
-general infrastructure improvements/new restaurants

Cedar Point
-Skyhawk (S&S giant screamin' swing)
-new shows
-Maverick (Intamin LSM/past-vertical coaster)
-Planet Snoopy retheme/redevelopment
-Skyscraper (from Valleyfair)
-Shoot the Rapids (modern Intamin log flume)
-Windseeker
-Dinosaurs Alive area
-Gatekeeper (massive B&M wing coaster)
-redesigned front gate
-general infrastructure improvements/new restaurants
-(they also removed two of their roller coasters, one major element of their skyline, and their beloved Demon Drop)

Canada's Wonderland
-tons of new shows
-Behemoth (massive B&M hypercoaster with groundbreaking new train design)
-Planet Snoopy retheme/redevelopment
-Windseeker
-Leviathan (GIGANTIC B&M gigacoaster, 8th tallest in the world, tallest and fastest in Canada)
-Dinosaurs Alive area
-general infrastructure improvements/new restaurants
-basic rebranding of the park as something not to be overlooked (after years of Paramount neglecting)
-now tied with Cedar Point in 2nd place for the most-coasters-in-the-world record (after Magic Mountain)

Carowinds
-water park expansions/additions
-swing ride (from Geauga Lake)
-Carolina Cobra (Vekoma boomerang from Geauga Lake with groundbreaking new train design)
-Thunder Road retracking
-Hurler retracking
-Intimidator (massive B&M hypercoaster)
-Planet Snoopy retheme/redevelopment
-new shows
-Windseeker
-Dinosaurs Alive area
-major infrastructure improvements/new restaurants

Dorney Park
-Possessed (Intamin impulse coaster from Geauga Lake)
-Demon Drop (from Cedar Point)
-Stinger (Vekoma inverted boomerang from California's Great America)
-Dinosaurs Alive
-major water park improvements/development
-major reworking/expansions of Halloween event
-major infrastructure improvements

This is positively smothering them with affection when you look at, say, Six Flags, and what they do with Six Flags Magic Mountain as opposed to Six Flags America.
You're the one who brought up the point Cedar Point was the largest and most attended throughout the chain, and I proved you wrong. For you to be so knowledgeable about the amusement industry since age twelve, you sure can't seem to get the stats for each park right.

I'm very aware of what Cedar Fair has done to each and every park since the Paramount Parks were bought. That is totally irrelevant to anything I've said. Obviously millions and millions of dollars are spent each year for every park, how else are you going to attract new visitors. MY point was that Cedar Fair created an unequal balance with it's parks. Regardless of what you throw next is not going to change that, so you should just stop now.
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Old 03-31-2013, 07:16 PM
 
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YES, exactly! All of this, thank you!


I actually did know that, all of it. I follow the amusement industry very closely and have since I was about twelve years old.
Your definition of size is too closely tied to attendance figures and acreage. There's way more than that involved, and it's not something you can easily put a hard number on. Probably the most important thing you need to consider is that Cedar Point really is that famous. It definitely is, like period, no argument, end of story. People from everywhere know about Cedar Point. Maybe it's not Disneyland, but it's known all around the world. Spend one day at Cedar Point and you will meet people from all over the country. Honestly, it's probably a bigger attraction to Michiganders and Indianans than Ohioans (in my experience, people from Columbus go to Kings Island more often).

And they certainly are not leaving any of their parks behind. Let's just examine that hypothesis. Since 2006 (year of the Paramount acquisition)...

California's Great America
-water park expansions
-Zamperla Disk-O
-tons of new shows
-Firefall (from Geauga Lake)
-Haunt expansions
-Planet Snoopy retheme
-Grizzly retracking
-Gold Striker (massive new GCI wooden twister)
-general infrastructure improvements/new restaurants

Knott's Berry Farm
-Sierra Sidewinder (Mack family spinning coaster)
-Pony Express (Zamperla launched family coaster)
-2 new shows
-Windseeker
-Coast Rider (Mack wild mouse coaster)
-Surfside Glider (flying scooter)
-Pacific Scrambler (generic scrambler)
-general infrastructure improvements/new restaurants

Worlds of Fun
-Patriot (major B&M inverted coaster)
-tons of Haunt expansions
-Prowler (critically-acclaimed GCI wooden terrain coaster)
-new shows
-Planet Snoopy retheme and development
-major Oceans of Fun expansion/removal of separate gate system
-Timber Wolf retracking
-general infrastructure improvements/new restaurants

Valleyfair
-Xtreme Swing (S&S giant screamin' swing)
-Renegade (GCI wooden out-and-back twister coaster)
-improvements to Halloween event
-major redevelopment of Soak City
-Planet Snoopy retheme and development
-Dinosaurs Alive area
-general infrastructure improvements

Michigan's Adventure
-major water park improvements/expansions
-Grand Rapids (rapids ride)
-expanded train ride
-Thunderhawk (Vekoma SLC from Geauga Lake)
-general infrastructure improvements/new restaurants

Kings Island
-major redevelopments/expansions/rethemes of Nickelodeon Universe/Planet Snoopy
-Firehawk (Vekoma Flying Dutchman from Geauga Lake)
-new shows
-Diamondback (massive B&M hypercoaster)
-Windseeker
-Dinosaurs Alive area
-major water park expansions/improvements
-general infrastructure improvements/new restaurants

Cedar Point
-Skyhawk (S&S giant screamin' swing)
-new shows
-Maverick (Intamin LSM/past-vertical coaster)
-Planet Snoopy retheme/redevelopment
-Skyscraper (from Valleyfair)
-Shoot the Rapids (modern Intamin log flume)
-Windseeker
-Dinosaurs Alive area
-Gatekeeper (massive B&M wing coaster)
-redesigned front gate
-general infrastructure improvements/new restaurants
-(they also removed two of their roller coasters, one major element of their skyline, and their beloved Demon Drop)

Canada's Wonderland
-tons of new shows
-Behemoth (massive B&M hypercoaster with groundbreaking new train design)
-Planet Snoopy retheme/redevelopment
-Windseeker
-Leviathan (GIGANTIC B&M gigacoaster, 8th tallest in the world, tallest and fastest in Canada)
-Dinosaurs Alive area
-general infrastructure improvements/new restaurants
-basic rebranding of the park as something not to be overlooked (after years of Paramount neglecting)
-now tied with Cedar Point in 2nd place for the most-coasters-in-the-world record (after Magic Mountain)

Carowinds
-water park expansions/additions
-swing ride (from Geauga Lake)
-Carolina Cobra (Vekoma boomerang from Geauga Lake with groundbreaking new train design)
-Thunder Road retracking
-Hurler retracking
-Intimidator (massive B&M hypercoaster)
-Planet Snoopy retheme/redevelopment
-new shows
-Windseeker
-Dinosaurs Alive area
-major infrastructure improvements/new restaurants

Dorney Park
-Possessed (Intamin impulse coaster from Geauga Lake)
-Demon Drop (from Cedar Point)
-Stinger (Vekoma inverted boomerang from California's Great America)
-Dinosaurs Alive
-major water park improvements/development
-major reworking/expansions of Halloween event
-major infrastructure improvements

This is positively smothering them with affection when you look at, say, Six Flags, and what they do with Six Flags Magic Mountain as opposed to Six Flags America.
I'm confused on what exactly you're missing about the other posters' statements.

Cedar Fair does show favoritism for Cedar Point. End of story.
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Old 04-01-2013, 08:50 AM
 
Location: Minneapolis
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You're the one who brought up the point Cedar Point was the largest and most attended throughout the chain, and I proved you wrong. For you to be so knowledgeable about the amusement industry since age twelve, you sure can't seem to get the stats for each park right.

I'm very aware of what Cedar Fair has done to each and every park since the Paramount Parks were bought. That is totally irrelevant to anything I've said. Obviously millions and millions of dollars are spent each year for every park, how else are you going to attract new visitors. MY point was that Cedar Fair created an unequal balance with it's parks. Regardless of what you throw next is not going to change that, so you should just stop now.
I didn't say ever that Cedar Point has the biggest attendance numbers. You put those words in my mouth.
Stop it with your pointless defensiveness. You clearly have a problem with Cedar Point, even if you haven't admitted it to yourself yet. You contradict yourself over and over and it alllllll comes off as immature whining.

You're wrong, period. That's all there is to it. I've given you the facts (the actual facts, as in the ones that mean anything) and all you do is yell and sling mud - you still have not offered even one concrete modicum of evidence that there is any sort of meaningful "unequal balance" within the chain.

Get over it, seriously.
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Old 04-01-2013, 09:34 AM
 
Location: Charlotte
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Who said you were jealous? No one anywhere said you were. You obviously have some problem with it though with the way you're going about wording things. It seems like you want to turn this into a Cedar Point vs Carowinds deal. You're taking something as meaningless as what Cedar Point really is and turning it into something it's not.

I don't really care what you said or if you care where I have been to or not. My point was Cedar Point is known around the world. When I was in Dreamworld, I told people I was from Ohio and they went on about how they wanted to go to Cedar Point... probably wouldn't do that so much for Carowinds. Again, Cedar Point is a known destination.

I also don't care what your opinion is, I am not trying to sway it any way. Don't care what your opinion is about Cedar Point, and don't care what your opinion is on Carowinds. I am just telling where that what you're saying about Cedar Point and Cedar Fair is based off your opinion of how things SHOULD be.
I did not bring up Carowinds, bro. I don't believe this discussion was between me and you anyways, therefore I don't need for you to care about my opinion or input on anything I've said.


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I didn't say ever that Cedar Point has the biggest attendance numbers. You put those words in my mouth.
Stop it with your pointless defensiveness. You clearly have a problem with Cedar Point, even if you haven't admitted it to yourself yet. You contradict yourself over and over and it alllllll comes off as immature whining.

You're wrong, period. That's all there is to it. I've given you the facts (the actual facts, as in the ones that mean anything) and all you do is yell and sling mud - you still have not offered even one concrete modicum of evidence that there is any sort of meaningful "unequal balance" within the chain.

Get over it, seriously.
You did claim Cedar Point had the "widest audience", which I'm assuming you meant Cedar Point's name draws more people from a wider radius than other parks, which would lead to the point of Cedar Point overall attracting more people, when in fact, it doesn't.

Knott's has the largest numbers, why does not see as much investment as Cedar Point? Why isn't GateKeeper going to Knott's or any other park other than Cedar Point?

If you haven't noticed, this website is open to opinions, which is exactly what I'm sharing to you. It's not getting defensive. What exactly have I gotten defensive over? Lol.

I clearly do not have a problem with Cedar Point. Maybe you should stop putting words in my mouth.

You went from "agreeing" with me to what I've said the whole to my opinion, that you were suppose to agree with, being flat out wrong.

"Facts" are not listing exactly what Cedar Fair has done to their other parks since acquiring them. That's common sense.

You obviously have trouble with letting others have an opinion, and before throwing these "facts" out and thinking you're right about the subject, when it's quite obvious you're Cedar Point > any other Cedar Fair park and are getting butt-hurt and defensive because I do not agree with your preference.

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Old 04-01-2013, 11:53 AM
 
Location: Mahoning Valley, Ohio
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I did not bring up Carowinds, bro. I don't believe this discussion was between me and you anyways, therefore I don't need for you to care about my opinion or input on anything I've said.




You did claim Cedar Point had the "widest audience", which I'm assuming you meant Cedar Point's name draws more people from a wider radius than other parks, which would lead to the point of Cedar Point overall attracting more people, when in fact, it doesn't.

Knott's has the largest numbers, why does not see as much investment as Cedar Point? Why isn't GateKeeper going to Knott's or any other park other than Cedar Point?

If you haven't noticed, this website is open to opinions, which is exactly what I'm sharing to you. It's not getting defensive. What exactly have I gotten defensive over? Lol.

I clearly do not have a problem with Cedar Point. Maybe you should stop putting words in my mouth.

You went from "agreeing" with me to what I've said the whole to my opinion, that you were suppose to agree with, being flat out wrong.

"Facts" are not listing exactly what Cedar Fair has done to their other parks since acquiring them. That's common sense.

You obviously have trouble with letting others have an opinion, and before throwing these "facts" out and thinking you're right about the subject, when it's quite obvious you're Cedar Point > any other Cedar Fair park and are getting butt-hurt and defensive because I do not agree with your preference.
Bro!

I am responding to what YOU said. So I really don't care if it was between me and you or not, I am going to respond if I disagree. Like you said, we all have our opinions. And go back and read this thread, you're mentioning Carowinds quite a bit, it is part of Cedar Fair, correct? We are talking about Cedar Fair and its parks.

Cedar Point and Canada's Wonderland do have the "widest" audience. They're both more internationally known over Knott's. Knott's, CW, CP, and KI all bring in over 3 million a year. But because of what they offer and what people prefer, Canada's Wonderland and Cedar Point have more INTERNATIONALLY recognized attention.

You can tell me all you want that you don't have a problem with Cedar Point, but you must not be reading the same thread as I am, or just dug a hole and don't know where to go so you stick with whatever your original point was. Seriously, if it bothers you so much that Cedar Fair invests more in Cedar Point than Carowinds or other lesser known parks, don't even bother making the trip up North and chill at Carowinds this summer. One less person in line at the Gate Keeper . I think all of Cedar Fair's parks have seen decent investment over the last couple years. Again, if you don't see fit what Cedar Fair is doing with its parks, write the parks you don't think are getting a fair share of investment and tell them to leave Cedar Fair. I am sure they are more content now than they were a few years ago, though. It's business. I realize you have your opinion, but it doesn't make sense for the main branch of the library to not invest heavily in itself and send more money to smaller branches in other neighborhoods of the city. Same goes for many other business ventures out there. Yes, Cedar Point and Canada's Wonderland get plenty of investment. But it's not like Cedar Fair gave a big F you to Knott's and left them to wither and die off. From now on, Michigan's Adventure should get the same about of development $$$$ as Cedar Point, even though Cedar Point is a much bigger draw. Forget safety studies, safe rides, infrastructure, and much more that costs $$$$.
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Old 04-01-2013, 04:59 PM
 
Location: Orlando
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Orlando by far..... I just wish more people would vist Downtown Orlando.
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Old 04-01-2013, 08:29 PM
 
Location: Washington, DC area
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Orlando by far..... I just wish more people would vist Downtown Orlando.
Been to Downtown Orlando more times than the amusement parks .

Never cared for the Disney theme, so I avoid those parks. But I do like Orlando's Universal Studios and would like to see the new Legoland there. Been to Legoland in CA and enjoyed that. LA is okay. we enjoyed Univeral and six flags there.

My favorite park is Cedar Point, but DC has three great parks within an easy drive. (four if you count the crappy six flags). Hershey Park, Kings Dominion and Bush Gardens all within an easy drive of DC is nice to have.
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Old 04-01-2013, 09:55 PM
 
Location: Charlotte
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Bro!

I am responding to what YOU said. So I really don't care if it was between me and you or not, I am going to respond if I disagree. Like you said, we all have our opinions. And go back and read this thread, you're mentioning Carowinds quite a bit, it is part of Cedar Fair, correct? We are talking about Cedar Fair and its parks.

Cedar Point and Canada's Wonderland do have the "widest" audience. They're both more internationally known over Knott's. Knott's, CW, CP, and KI all bring in over 3 million a year. But because of what they offer and what people prefer, Canada's Wonderland and Cedar Point have more INTERNATIONALLY recognized attention.

You can tell me all you want that you don't have a problem with Cedar Point, but you must not be reading the same thread as I am, or just dug a hole and don't know where to go so you stick with whatever your original point was. Seriously, if it bothers you so much that Cedar Fair invests more in Cedar Point than Carowinds or other lesser known parks, don't even bother making the trip up North and chill at Carowinds this summer. One less person in line at the Gate Keeper . I think all of Cedar Fair's parks have seen decent investment over the last couple years. Again, if you don't see fit what Cedar Fair is doing with its parks, write the parks you don't think are getting a fair share of investment and tell them to leave Cedar Fair. I am sure they are more content now than they were a few years ago, though. It's business. I realize you have your opinion, but it doesn't make sense for the main branch of the library to not invest heavily in itself and send more money to smaller branches in other neighborhoods of the city. Same goes for many other business ventures out there. Yes, Cedar Point and Canada's Wonderland get plenty of investment. But it's not like Cedar Fair gave a big F you to Knott's and left them to wither and die off. From now on, Michigan's Adventure should get the same about of development $$$$ as Cedar Point, even though Cedar Point is a much bigger draw. Forget safety studies, safe rides, infrastructure, and much more that costs $$$$.
You are killin' me lol.

As I said before, I'm not sure why you felt the need to jump into this discussion with me and the other poster with your immature comments, but for the second time, I was not talking to you.

YOU are mentioning Carowinds in general. I have not brought up Carowinds other than me replying to your comments about Carowinds. You're obviously a little off.

Tell me this. How in the hell does Canada's Wonderland have "INTERNATIONAL recognized attention"?

Because of Leviathan? Behemoth?

Obviously Cedar Point has national recognization, but I'm certain if you go to a foreign country and show them a picture of Cedar Point, they're not going to know it's Cedar Point, or where it's at or who owns it.

A few years ago, Cedar Fair said in the future Carowinds would be the "Cedar Point of the South" and 61 additional acres were purchased within the last few years. So I'm guessing that makes Carowinds an international resort destination, right?

Knott's and all the other CF parks are known to their respective visitors and people that have an interest in visiting them. It makes no sense to say Cedar Point and Canada's Wonderland are the most recognized parks when they aren't even the most visited?

I have a season pass to Cedar Point, Carowinds and Kings Dominion. Do you need a picture, bro?

I'll definitely be in the line for GateKeeper, as said before, bro. As I will be in line for the Intimidators.

Cedar Fair can invest billions of dollars into Cedar Point every year, hell, that's more for me to do. BUT, having said that, instead of constantly adding the "biggies" to Cedar Point, why not invest that into a smaller park to increase ticket sales and attendance numbers? I guess that's a better way of comprehending at what I was saying in the first place.
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Been to Downtown Orlando more times than the amusement parks .

Never cared for the Disney theme, so I avoid those parks. But I do like Orlando's Universal Studios and would like to see the new Legoland there. Been to Legoland in CA and enjoyed that. LA is okay. we enjoyed Univeral and six flags there.

My favorite park is Cedar Point, but DC has three great parks within an easy drive. (four if you count the crappy six flags). Hershey Park, Kings Dominion and Bush Gardens all within an easy drive of DC is nice to have.
Legoland Florida is only about 30 minutes from Disney. It also was the worlds largest Legoland when it opened, but they have added a water park, and they are about to add a whole new place there. It truly is amazing i love it.
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